So on this sig I was mostly experimenting on things that other people have told me. So this one is for you Lock and anyone else from a few GFX Sites I checked out. I experimented with lighting which I suck at, gradient maps, and all sorts of other stuff. Warping etc. Ya you get it so completely experimental keep that in mind! btw this is the sig that I came here for some advice on what to do with it. V1 No Lighting V2 Lighting I personally hate the lighting because I don't have a clue how to make lighting work well with anything so if someone could explain or link what good lighting is and how to make it good. Also any GIMP users that now how to make good lighting would be much better. Anywho ya CnC and stuff