What Are You Working On?

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  1. AceOfSpades

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    From the NYT article on this:

    “Under my proposal, the federal government will stop micromanaging the internet,” Mr. Pai said in a statement. “Instead, the F.C.C. would simply require internet service providers to be transparent about their practices so that consumers can buy the service plan that’s best for them and entrepreneurs and other small businesses can have the technical information they need to innovate.”

    There is a lot of this country where there is only one telecom provider, so consumers will have no option or choice, they'll just get ****ed by whatever the telecom company decides to charge. And even in places where you can choose between Verizon and Comcast or whatever, if every company is doing it, what's the point of having a choice?
     
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  2. AceOfSpades

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    Yep, you're correct, thanks for clarifying. This WILL HAPPEN unless Congress votes to stop it.
     
  3. MULLERTJE

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    Is this for real?
     
  4. AceOfSpades

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    Yep. Are you even surprised at this point? You live in Europe, right? Must be absolutely baffling to see **** like this happen in the "land of the free"
     
  5. MULLERTJE

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    Hahahaha yes you're right but when I would say this people will get mad and then we'll have six pages of flag waving and politics.

    But you're right about the baffling part haha. We have a free market for all electricity and telecom providers. Fast internet and good pricing.
     
  6. qrrby

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    America sucks
     
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  7. qrrby

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    Imagine if I told you that I'm gonna lock waywo every day and you can only access it when I want you to.

    That's my understanding of net neutrality
     
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  8. AceOfSpades

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    You must have ForgeHub Silver to access WAYWO
     
  9. purely fat

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    So, here is the history of this subject according to Wiki

    • January 12, 2003 – Law Professor Tim Wu coins phrase Net Neutrality while discussing “competing contents and applications.” [129]
    • June 27, 2005 – Supreme Court decides that “communications, content, and applications are allowed to pass freely over the Internet's broadband pipes”[130]
    • September 1, 2007 – “Comcast begins interfering with Bittorrent traffic on its network.”
    • January 9, 2008 – FCC investigates Comcast traffic policy and treatment of Bittorrent traffic [131]
    • August 9, 2010 – Google and Verizon try to cut deal to make larger parts of internet to be exempt from protection from the net neutrality rules from the FCC [132]
    • December 21, 2010 – FCC creates “Open Internet Rules” which “established high-level rules requiring transparency and prohibiting blocking and unreasonable discrimination to protect Internet openness”.
    • September 23, 2011 – The Federal Register publishes the Open Internet Rules[133]
    • May 13, 2014 – FCC releases new proposal including new rules on allowing “fast lanes and slow lanes online”[134]
    • June 13, 2014 – FCC investigates large companies such as Netflix for interconnection policies [135]
    • July 15, 2014 – FCC opens up on Public Knowledge for public comments, received 1.1 million comments on the first day. Determined that "less than 1% of comments were clearly opposed to net neutrality." [136][137]
    • September 15, 2014 – FCC receives 3.7 million comments in total. “The FCC's server crashes again as millions more people, companies, and advocacy organizations weigh in on the open internet rules.”
    • February 26, 2015 – FCC passes the Title II Net Neutrality Rules. “In a 3–2 party-line vote, the FCC passes open internet rules applying to both wired and wireless internet connections grounded in Title II authority.” [138]
    • June 12, 2015 – Net neutrality rules go into effect.[139]
    • June 14, 2016 – New rules are upheld by the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.[140]
    • January 23, 2017 – President Trump names Ajit Pai as new FCC chairman.[141]
    • April 26, 2017 – FCC Chairman Ajit Pai announces plan to reverse Title II regulations.[142]
    • May 1, 2017 – A U.S. appeals court declined to reconsider a rehearing of the FCC’s net neutrality case.[143]
    • May 18, 2017 – The FCC voted 2–1 to start rolling back net neutrality regulations; this vote marked the beginning of a lengthy process required to modify the existing rules, and it did not actually change said rules.[110]
    • June 6, 2017 – Amazon, Reddit, Netflix and many other internet organizations announce that they will hold a simultaneous "Day of Action to Save Net Neutrality" on July 12 in a final attempt to convince the Republican-controlled FCC to keep the current net neutrality rules.[144][145][146][147]
    • July 12, 2017 – The net neutrality 'day of action' occurred, involving many major companies and the original founder of the Web, Tim Berners-Lee.[148]
    • July 17, 2017 - Comment Date for "Restoring Internet freedom" NPRM[111]
    • August 30, 2017 - Reply Comment Date for "Restoring Internet freedom" NPRM[111]
     
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  10. purely fat

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    So the only time this was abused was by Comcast in 2008. Also, a reminder that many of the companies opposed to this were for government having more control over our internet and making our information less private.

    Yeah, I did some more research and there is no chance congress doesn't do something based on the number of orgs in support of it. It sounds like this will just end up being another adjustment to how the internet is governed. Remember nothing will get done during Trumps administration considering the GOP and Democrats both hate him and their general handling of anything related to him and since the guy who drafted this up was put into his position by Trump I wouldn't see anything different happening.
     
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    One can hope. It kinda sucks living in a blue state because I know there's not much I can do other than contact my representatives who I know for the most part are on my side on this issue. So it just feels like I'm shouting into an echo chamber. Kinda wish I lived in a swing state.
     
  12. purely fat

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    no you don't. especially with so many people being too emotionally invested in politics to think straight and many of the orgs that support net neutrality are right leaning (there were 4 pro gun orgs listed in the short list). Hell, even the extreme far right is for it based on their necessity to be in the shadows as much as possible. This is not really a right or left thing just like CISPA wasn't (Mostly supported by left leaning corporations.) Even if it goes through it will open the door for these corporations to be undercut by smaller broadband providers. This law only came into existence in 2015 and my internet is just as shitty as it was before it was passed.
     
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  13. icyhotspartin

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    nothing will ever clean up the mess of the Paramount Bill of the 1940s
    not the telecom bubble and breakup of AT&T
    not net neutrality
    not a nuclear holocaust
    because the desire to rule is bred and injected into us
     
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  14. icyhotspartin

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    no one would use it, and another site would be made, and you'd either lose all traffic and adrevenue/subscriber revenue and close down, or you'd be more open with your services and actually negotiate with the users

    your premises (as I read between the lines) underestimate the resourcefulness and drive of people with computers, and do not give the consumer, the average person any choice as to what they can and can't do

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    no one except the masochists who already populate this cesspool would use it because they are so emotionally invested in complaining about it
    bunch of Nietzschean slaves, all of you (me too)
     
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  15. qrrby

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    Can confirm, I make bread every other day
     
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  17. ExTerrestr1al

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    ummm... Europe was far ahead of this curve, my friend. You can't even say certain words in some countries.
     
  18. AceOfSpades

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    Not sure what you're getting at here. I know how Western Europe treats stuff like this and it's a hell of a lot better than America.

    Edit: and I know it varies across different European countries, I'm just talking generally.
     
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  19. ExTerrestr1al

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    Im just saying that in terms of overall censorship, you are not nearly as protected with your speech in most of europe. Germany, france and UK are all jailing people for their opinions. We still have to protect what we have, though.
     
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  20. Chronmeister

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    My Destiny inspired map is playable. I think it will support up to 4v4, but I haven't tested it yet.
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    Edit: It's gonna be a 2v2...with a ghost.
     
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