Sandbox Discussion - Watch your spam.. (Interview links in OP)

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by Something., Jan 16, 2009.

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  1. zone sama

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    some of those pictures kick ass
     
  2. zone sama

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    wow, i got my own page.
     
  3. GATORSHOES2

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    i like all the idiots that believed this was sandtrap

    WOW
     
  4. Ladnil

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    Those heatmaps we were so excited to find and linked directly from Bungie.net? Yea, all red now check out the first post.
     
  5. Ozarka

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    DTL, what's your trick for making the walls fit together so perfectly without tilting when they're horizontal? I can't find a solution for the walls tilting no matter what I do.

    p.s. That map looks AMAZING
     
  6. Draw the Line

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    Well, there is no stopping the walls from becoming crooked. What I've done is made sure those crooked walls next to one another are all slanted in the same direction, creating a crooked, but smooth surface. It takes a lot of trial and error, but it's well worth the hassle.
     
  7. thesilencebroken

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    this too is what i did. If it doesnt match when you load the map back up, simply grab the wall again, lay it back down and save and quit again. Keep doing that till it lays together right.
     
  8. zeppelinboy777

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    Hey, STFU. It was a hand drawn picture and I looked like Sandtrap. And now we see that Sandbox is literally the same thing as Sandtrap (one of those giant ring things with a lot of sand in the middle.

    Can anyone make a tutorial or something on how to geomerge better and Sandbox? I used both ways of merging on Foundry but no matter what I do my merges don't work on Sandbox.
     
  9. squidhands

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    Since there's so much z-fighting going on when interlocking on Sandtrap, it's a lot more tedious than it is on Foundry. You'll have to do a lot more adjusting of the objects to get it to stop, and even when it works sometimes the map will readjust itself after you save, leaving you frustrated as hell.

    If you're talking straight up geo-merging for places like in the Crypt, it seems as if the object will always pop back up when the 'teardrop' goes under/into the map. Try it again with that in mind and see if it works better.




    Since this is becoming a map teaser thread as well, I present to you:

    Avarice
    [​IMG]

    It's about 95% complete, and this will be considered the alpha (non-interlocked) build. I'll be doing tests this week, so be on the lookout.
     
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  10. Draw the Line

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    I just heard that from Orange last night! Its a shame geo-merging isn't possible down there... the Crypt had so many possibilities.... but the slanted walls and impossibility of geo-merging really kill just about any chance of me using the map. Unless I'm too constricted by a budget, I'll probably stick to Foundry.
     
  11. Something.

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    So, just to clarify... Bungie actually did take away those glitches that made maps a better quality?

    Luckily I don't need geomerging for what I want to make... but I know a lot of people do.
     
  12. chrstphrbrnnn

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    No you can geomerge it's just slightly more annoying as there aren't any doors.
     
  13. Draw the Line

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    Not in the Crypt, once you geomerge, save quit and go back into the game the objects appear ungeo-merged. I don't know why this occurs, but its annoying.
     
  14. X5

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    Really? Because I geomerged down there and had no issues..
     
  15. Pegasi

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    This sounds tres strange. Which objects did you experience this problem with DtL? Could it be that this problem only affects certain objects, like the wall tilt glitch?
     
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  16. Draw the Line

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    This is what I've heard from orange and I think Linu forging together.... perhaps its a NAT problem, because I know when orange is in a party with me, some objects appear in different locations than they actually are....

    Anywhooo.... I think its time I posted another in pic of my map in progress!
    [​IMG]

    The geometry is about 90% complete, but it's that last 10% that will really bring this map together. Then all I have to do is smooth out the bugs here and there.

    I'm debating whether a hornet will work in the map or not.... we'll see how testing goes.
     
  17. thesilencebroken

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    The "you cannot geomerge in the crypt" thing is a myth. Chrstphrbrnnn has done it several times in his new map, and I see it all the time as he works on it more and more.

    Work on your method, this isnt foundry. New styles must be made.
     
  18. chrstphrbrnnn

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    It may be the default items, they have extremely strange properties when you set them not to spawn, and save the game. They duplicate, and reset constantly. I would assume this is why you can't geomerge, as the items won't move easily once you save. Use only what you have to from the default items, they are too difficult.
     
  19. squidhands

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    I keep telling you, you don't have to use the default items any more. Delete those ****ers and be free of their wretched tyranny.
     
  20. Ladnil

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    MLG forge forum has found that if the little selector dot is geomerged to where you can't see it, the whole block will sometimes pop out of the merge. So when you're merging in the crypt, just keep the side with the dot facing outward and you should be good to go.

    I haven't actually confirmed this myself, so I dont wanna post it in the tips and tricks thread yet.
     
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