Debate Religion

I don't think anyone's beliefs are completely true. You believe in what you believe in. No one can really prove what is right and what isn't. That's why they are called beliefs. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

I think that all organized religions are the biggest crock of ****. Biggest scam in the history of mankind. However, I'm not sure if i should be justified in hating on someone just because they choose to follow a particular faith. I mean, if that's what gets you by day to day in this world, so be it. Some people need to believe in something. I believe in myself.


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Actually, science is fact.

 

meh. not necessarily, titmar. science can be theories, too.

and i sort of disbelieve in my family's religion. i mean... the bible isn't very trustworthy. or at least i dont think so...

 

This is a pretty broad debate topic. I don't want to read through pages and pages of "I believe..." No one is likely to change their beliefs based on anything posted here.

Would it be possible to be more specific about the topic? Are you suggesting that religion and science are incompatible? Are we debating which has more to offer mankind?

 

Theories are facts. If you don't like scientific terminology then just be ignorant of the fact. E.g. The theory of Gravity.

Religion is a terrible, terrible mediator in civilization. Belief in God is not wrong, but when you try to make an organized religion of it and hold society back (E.g. Gay Marriage, intolerance, ignorance of science, etc.) it becomes a very very bad thing. I'm all for agnosticism, I just don't believe in it myself.

I do not believe in a science. I accept it.

 

Truthfully, I don't know at the moment.
There's no solid proof of either. The big-bang-theory sounds weird, then again, so does religion.
If there was proof that one or the other was what really happened, I would believe in that one.

 

Is this a typo? Theories are not facts, they are guesses. Once a theory is proven, then it is a fact. Theories can be wrong.

And I do think that religious leaders are often scared of science. Religious leaders like to be the ones who tell people what is right and wrong, how the world works, and how they should be living their lives. When science contradicts religious teachings, it threatens the whole basis of power of the religious leaders. How long before science reveals religious teachings to be fairy tales, and the religious teachers to be liars and manipulators?

Sigs, people. Sigs.

 

The big bang fall within the lines of sanity more than God. Because eternity can't be real from a theological perspective. However, science yields another answer for eternity, one that is possible.

 

I'd agree the big bang makes more sense, but it still doesn't make sense. Just more than religion. That's worded horrible...eh.

Again, if there was proof of either, that's the one I'd believe in.

 

I am definitely not a religious person, I know I don't believe in the Bible or any form of Christianity for that matter. There may or may not be a god, he may or may not be helping, aiding, hindering us.

I think I believe more in Science than anything it just proves so manyfacts. Dinosaur bones for example how the hell did they get here, I thought God created Humans in the week he made the Universe.

I still look to the stars thinking about what may be up there in terms of a supernatural being. But who doesn't.

 

Theory - a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity.

Principles - a fundamental, primary, or general law or truth from which others are derived: the principles of modern physics.

Truth - a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like: mathematical truths.

You were saying?

 

Religion was originally developed to explain the unknown. When you heard thunder hundreds of years ago, it was God or a god-like figure. It then developed into a way to control people. Hundreds of wars have been fought "In the name of God". Even today wars are continuously fought in the name of god. But I guess there will always be an excuse to go to war. America and Iraq is a perfect example.

I have no problem with religion in its purest form.... as it was intended. Unfortunately people are corrupt, and that shows with any large group that holds power, regardless of moral standards. Personally I do believe in God, but I do not believe in organized religion. To each his own.

 

This isn't my argument, but I think your wrong there.
Truth: a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like: mathematical truths.
It says verified, are theory's verified?

 

Very. They are highly scrutinized by the scientific community for years. It usually takes over 20 years before a theory makes it into schools(over 100 years for evolution).

 

I'm not meaning to get off topic here, but here are some other definitions. Link
2.a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.
6.contemplation or speculation.
7.guess or conjecture.

 

Those do not pertain to science. Look at the usage in italics. Those could be philosophical theories.

 

Aha. I read some more, and it appears that it has a slightly different definition if used in technical terms.

I stand corrected. But that's confusing. Anyway, we were discussing the incompatibility of science and religion?

EDIT: I may have to create another debate thread: Is the definition of "theory" confusing? Discuss. J/K