That Togekiss doesn't have to lead, it can function as your second or third pokemon very well in the Battle Tower, especially since they usually send out their faster pokemon in the first or second slots, making it easier to ParaFlinch a later pokemon. They would also benefit your tank-minded Dragonite, well too. I dunno, I've never been a fan of Gyarados, he's gotten better with each installment, but he just never really appealed to me.
I just like him because I use him in red and blue when I played that. His problem is the 4x weakness to electric which pops up a fair amount. I did wonder, would replacing him with a vaporeon work or would I have to much defense and not enough power. Swampert is probably better but I like vaporeon.
You'd be mainly relying on either your tanking Dragonite or your Togekiss for the brunt of your offensive power. At this point you wouldn't have one definitive sweeper really, I mean I like to think Togekiss can fill that role (because its a badass lol) but it helps when you have a definitive powerhouse to back him up. I don't think you're necessarily getting that in Dragonite and Vaporeon definitely doesn't help the cause there. Plus, with Swampert, you have the possible option to cover Dragon types and get rid of your electric, and rock type weakneses and Togekiss can cover any grass types looking to ruin Swampert's fun. I think if you're gonna replace Gyarados, Swampert would be the way to go. And if you really want a dedicated physical sweeper to compliment Togekiss's Special Attacking prowess and Swampert's general bulk, the Lucario set I mentioned would do that quite well. Plus, Swampert's Ice Beam gets rid of the bane of Lucario's existence, Gliscor.
And I also forgot, that swampert would render stone edge to normal damage and electric wouldn't effect it so I'm gonna train up a swampert with that set you mentioned and see how that fits and if I need to change something, I'll try the lucario. Thanks.
A Pokémon's nature and ability can be checked before it hatches from its Egg! Simply place the Egg in a PC Box. Press R to move to an adjacent Box, and make sure that there is a Pokémon in this space. Under the Pokémon's name, different aspects of the Pokémon will be scrolled through in a rectangle (in order, these aspects are: Item, Type, Nature, Ability). Let it scroll through each aspect a few times until you're sure of the time interval between each aspect. Now, let's say you wanted to check the nature of the Pokémon in the Egg. Put the pointer over the Pokémon in the adjacent Box. Just before it scrolls from type to nature, press L to move back to the Box containing the Egg. While you are moving from Box to Box, the nature of the Pokémon in the Egg should appear in the rectangle! This process can help you to discard Eggs with an undesirable nature or ability. Note: This trick does not work in Pokémon Platinum. Found this on serebii,thought it might be helpful.
Okay. People say that Dragonite is weak offensively, yet it is in the top 15 for attack. So what is so bad about it? (also Halo Kid, I hope that that doesn't work, I have the togepi egg in Heart gold and I am planning on not hatching it until I know what nature I want. I thought you could just save before it hatches then repeat until I get what I want. But if it's predetermined then Im in trouble)
Just thought of a doubles team so tell me what you think 1.Shuckle Ability: Sturdy Moves: Toxic, Stealth Rock, Power Trick, (Stone Edge/protect) 2.Yanmega Moves: Baton Pass, Double Team, Air Slash, Bug Bite/other move of choice 3. Metagross Moves: (Meteor Mash/ Iron Head (whether you want better attack or better accuracy and flinching chance), Zen Headbutt, Then Ice Punch/Thunder punch/ Headbutt/Dynamic Punch or double edge(if raised and movetutored in emerald)/brick break or Hammer Arm if you don't mind the speed loss move choice depends on personal preference on type coverage. 4.I'm not sure if you can have 4 or not but if you can you may want to take a swampert. Shuckle and Yanmega open up. Yanmega starts with double team and repeats tt several times. Shuckle lays down stealth rock then uses toxic, but if there is a powerful sweeper that is a threat to Yanmega it Power tricks it and forces a switch which hits with the stealth rock. After Yanmega has increased it evasion (and speed due to it's ability) it either attacks or uses Baton Pass to Metagross. Metagross proceeds to use it's increased speed and evasion to unleash hell. Shuckle can be kept out to use stone edge or to simply protect itself and wait for the next pokemon to come out so it can toxic it. also if you don't want Yanmega to attack it can learn both protect and detect making you team nearly invincible at the start.
A strong pokemon with taunt has the potential to completely ruin that team. Taunt would make shuckle useless and yanmega wouldn't be able to do much., which would leave your metagross which wouldn't be as much of a threat without any of the status boosters. I say take out the shuckle and replace with the swampert for a lead. Swampert @ Leftovers Torrent Relaxed Nature EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def Stealth Rock Earthquake Surf / Ice Beam / Stone Edge Roar Stealth Rock: As a lead, you always want to have Stealth Rock support if possible. Earthquake: It's Earthquake. It's STAB. It's Earthquake AND STAB AND Swampert's dominant offense is physical attack. Enough said. Surf / Ice Beam / Stone Edge: Depends on what you want here. You could go for a standard MixPert lead with Ice Beam, go for more STAB with Surf, OR go for the physical powerhouse with Stone Edge. Whatever floats your boat. Roar: Scout. Accumulate SR damage. Repeat. Theres a swampert moveset that was posted earlier for me. What EVs are you planning on doing for each of them?
For Metagross I would use Meteor Mash, Explosion, Thunderpunch, and Earthquake/Agility/Zen Headbutt, but if you're planning on BPing speed to it, use Earthquake or Zen Headbutt, pobably Zen Headbutt because this is a doubles team and earthquake would only be a viable option if everyone else on your team is dead or Yanmega is on the field with him.
For shuckle EV's in Health and Spec Def, extra in Def For Yanmega EV's in Health, Speed, extra in Spec Attack (for anti-dark/bug/grass/fighting pokemon) Metagross EV's in Attack, Spec Def, extra in Speed ( I chose Metagross because it seemed to have the speed/defense/attack ratio for the list of 100 top attack pokemon, in which it placed 9th) and like I said if you can take 4 into a double battle then bring that swampert and replace stealth rock on shuckle for something else. --- or put protect on shuckle instead of stealth rock so it can be out with an earthquaking metagross/swampert
Yeah, not sure if you can use four for double or not, I haven't tried it before. I still would say replace shuckle with something. It just seems it wouldn't be very reliable. Like I said, taunt would mess your team up so I would consider replacing shuckle with another beefy pokemon, maybe a dragonite? I'm using one at the moment and it works well.
And also Richard, even though it is predetermined, just catch a ditto and breed the togepi until you get the desired nature. For dragons, I usually prefer dragonite because of the bulk, but If I want straight attack and power, I would go with garchomp and for a wider movepool, I would pick salamence.
Smogon Dragonite Salamence Serebii Dragonite Salamence ^Read these, my friend. Yes Dragonite is in the top 15 for attack. Guess who outclasses him? Salamence, who just happens to sit in the top 45 for special attack and has 20 more base speed than Dragonite and higher HP (just minimally) AND higher defense because of Intimidate. The only real thing Dragonite has going for it is a higher special defense (base 100 which is pretty decent for his power) and Thunder Wave which allows for some support roles. And the access to Extremespeed is nice, but still rarely sees effective usage. So your left with this big hulking beast who's only claim to fame nowadays is a support role. And guess what? There are far better support pokemon out there (Celebi, Blissey, Dusknoir, yadda yadda). So, you got nothing basically. Dragonite isn't bad; he used to be the biggest monster in OU in the first and second generations up there with the likes of Tyranitar. But now that we have Salamence, Dragonite is just outclassed. Period.
Although his ability to survive an ice beam is nice, unlike salamence, but thats still very little compared to everything salamence can do.
Fine! Lol you have that. THAT is Dragonite's only claim to fame. But he gets outsped by every powerful pokemon carrying Ice Beam so there's no real benefit there, seeing as he'll still only get one attack in at best. And Garchomp is banned from OU in competitive play. He's uber.
Why does everyone be hatin dragonite? There attack and HP are barely differant,the only true differance (to me) is speed and intimadate.
Speed is pretty much everything right now. Thats why you rarely see rampardos. Its got a monstrous attack and decent HP but its speed is so low. And woo, you gave me the ice beam. I've never done WiFi battle tower before. I want to make sure: Do the pokemon need to be level 100 or 50 and are there certain levels, like uber, OU and UU or is it just you can use anything?