I'm looking to start a new League of Gamers known as the NLG (Ninja League Gaming). This league would be dedicated to using every secret hiding spot and crazy jump tactics not to hide, but to ambush. For instance, if someone is coming around the corner and you know they are, you would use a certain jump to get behind them and pick up the assassination. Also, you would know every single trick jump there is, and be able to perform them. Does anyone think this is a good idea? Feedback is welcome, and I did have this posted in my blog, but not nearly as many people read those. Oh yeah, and Full Hayabusa will be required, haha. Bungie.net Group Page: http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/nlg/Group/GroupHome.aspx
This in my opinion is not a very good idea. People hate others for hiding in a game only to be ambushed then have them hide again only to have had a second ambush. Hiders in my opinions are noobs (no offense) and I hate that because it takes the fun away from the game. Do't take offense from this because I'm just answering your question with my own opinion.
There's already a group, it's called HLG. Hidden League Gaming. The premise is pretty much the same. Once they've got the lead, they hide for the rest of the game. Personally, I find HLG to be in extremely bad taste and quite cowardly.
I have to admit, it would take a lot more skill and would be a lot more fun to ambush someone everytime =] Great for Team games. Imagine Squad Battle... It might become a little more difficult to do on the smaller maps though. I'd never do it personally though - playing is still much more fun
Yeah I know about HLG. But I'm saying that this is for people who know the jumps and such, and that we could have teams that would use them as much a possible. It's not hiding.
That's still similar to HLG. They are good at jumps too and use that to their advantage to get to hiding spots so they can ambush the opponent.
No. NLG would be using jumps and ambushing to get the edge over the opponent. HLG rushes power weapons, gets the lead, and is never seen again. I can see where you see similarities, but they are still two totally different strategies.
So NLG players would hide from all their opponents yet be extremely aggressive? I can see where you're trying to separate NLG from HLG but they're essentially the same idea.
No, HLG RELIES on hiding to win. If they were found, they would lose. NLG would play through the whole game, ambushing and jumping around like ninjas to destroy the opposition.
So they're going to hide where their opponents will be and then rush them, thus exposing themselves. Once you've left your hiding spot it's hard to return or find a new one. If you jump out, your enemies know where you are and where you were hiding, which will compromise that spot. Personally, I don't see this working very well. Hiding doesn't work if you're always jumping out and surprising your opponent. In fact, that's what I'd call camping.
That's generally how a lot of people play in MLG. Your idea is not specific enough. I can quite easily employ these strategies at different points in a match to my advantage. I find that i play like this quite regularly, but i play MLG.
It's a style of playing. However, it not totally camping, but just doing crazy stuff to outwit the other team. Not as much hiding as HLG, however not as competetive, you could say, as MLG.
This is a great idea. Create a Bungie.net Group, get a few members, and see where it goes from there. Don't let other peoples views on your idea change your own. I find this to be more of a combination of MLG and HLG. I like to take part in both, and I don't see why combining the two would be such a bad idea. =)
I think what you are saying is you play a game normally but if you are running from someone or the like, you run around a corner, jump on a ledge and wait a second for them to run through and you jump down and assassinate them and keep playing. Example: the yellow ledge by green box and rocket tunnel on the pit that you can jump on to. You run around the corner away from someone, jump on it, and wait for the person to chase you and then assassinate them.
So you find the best "camping spots" and wait for someone to walk by and kill them, then you run away and hide again? Lol, sounds fun.
I learn as many trick jumps to hiding spots on a map as I can, that way I know here all the players with HLG in their gamertag are when I can't find them. I do have to admit I do a little ambushing, but I'm not dedicated enough to be some sort of ninja.
I can see where your coming from, and can see a clear difference between this and HLG. My main problem with it, however, is that it relies on a similar theoretical premise as HLG. By this, I don't mean hiding, such a difference has already been made clear. What I mean is that it relies on only one team doing this. Similarly in HLG, if both teams employ the tactic then it is senseless, there's no point hiding if the opponents are hiding as well, and both teams cannot have the lead. In this case, NLG relies upon the other team walking around a lot and being subject to ambushes, but what do you do if they to start to conceal themselves and wait for you to walk past? Everyone just sits there waiting, pretty boring IMO. This is the same problem with HLG, in that it's more of a tactic than a whole playstyle, and thus isn't really comparable to MLG or any fully fledged game mechanic. Its definitely something to think about in games and, as Matty says, I find myself using such tactics on and off when they are fit for the purpose. I'm sure we've all walked through a door only to find a swine with a shotty and regretted it instantly. It's something to consider and bear in mind, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it a playstyle, or even a defined tactic for whole games, more just something you should get good at and adapt into your overall playstyle.
Completely true Pegasi. I dislike HLG because it ruins the game for the other team and makes the game boring. On the other hand, this new playstyle, NLG, allows the other team to still have a chance of winning. We should use this tactic for ambushes, not hiding. There are many spots, such as the invisible ledges on Guardian on the corners. You can jump up to these and crouch to become invisible on radar. Guardian would be a heavily favored map of mine and probably many other people becuase of the high amount of jumps avaliable. This is the only map I practice jumping on and sometimes I am bored so I jump around. There is also another spot that is pretty difficult to see which is above the shotgun spawn on Guardian and between the blue room and the drop spot where you can drop down to grab the shotgun. There is another one of those invisible ledges that when you stand on, the branches and leaves conceil you a little bit which would be perfect for these slayer tactics.