It seems that a bug that crept up on a recent playtest of my map is also happening on other forge maps I play. The flag on one team simply isn't there when the game starts. Restarting the match always fixes. Is this new? EDIT: Flag nav markers on Forge maps not always being visible is a known bug. However, I am not yet sure about the rare, but annoying instances of a missing flag entirely.
well that would suck... one flag with one flag not loading? seriously though, this is not on PC Forge, but Xbox, and does not just happen on my admittedly glitchy map. It is also happening on others. Out of all of the flag players here... has no one seen this yet? I've seen it at least 3-5 times this past week... I just need confirmation that others are experiencing it so it's not just something with my equipment or something... Thanks
this did not occur last night during games on my or other maps, so maybe it was just temporary? anyways, it would be nice if one of the 23 people who read this thread could have at least said, "sorry, this hasn't (or has) happened in my experience." Sometimes I wonder why I post here...
anyone else? I need to determine if this is happening to others, please! Is no one playinng flag on forge maps? Are they always loading the flag and navpoint?
not sure who it was, but there was someone in @Ascend_Hyperion 's testing lobby who mentioned that this is a known forge bug, where sometimees the nav markers for flags do not appear. Strange thing is that when this map loaded in this lobby, I saw both icons, then shortly later they were gone. So, these can disappear shortly after the match starts. WEIRD!! good news is that it's not my map!! Thanks to whoever that was...
So reasons your flag nav markers would stop being visible: if they are player made: the game is out of sync and you are not constantly refreshing the flag navmarker meaning it does not get reshown to players. constantly applying a nav marker with scripting using a ontimer .05 seconds Default flags: your fx budget may be too high, reduce fx objects game sync error, nothing you can do this is a server issue
fantastic! Glad to have some real info. Thanks. I am using a default CTF flag, but I am assigning a navpoint to four objects (2 per team) every so often. I'd have to check the interval, but it is probably a few seconds between. This is necessary because players can switch teams, and in custom games, we want to encourage that for balance. We need to be able to assign new navpoints to a player when they switch. Removing navpoints is something I have given up on, because that seems to always remove the flag navs... despawning the navpoint object is the best option, but isn't currently implemented on my map.
this was an issue with strongholds as well. adding waypoints to gametypes that already have waypoints has issues. probably because they didnt think about the overlap. best I can say is think of a new way to do this by not doing it
the removal of the navs seems to be the biggest problem. I am having fairly consistent appearance of the flag nav points in most matches, so I will probably leave the nav points above my canon and distance calibration switches, unless deemed necessary to remove. I just had a thought: Perhaps this removal of Flag navs is tied to the moment when someone switches teams? Nah, that doesn't seem to happen every time... I'm trying to figure out why it happens sometimes, but not every time. I know @Ascend Hyperion had to ask someone to "switch teams when the map is done loading", and I have team-based navs for their respective canons and distance switches. While watching his stream, I know I saw the navs appear, then after a few seconds, they were gone. I will look into this more. Thanks!
@ExTerrestr1al Oh **** man, I completely forgot this. Whether it be a bug or an intentional part of the script, the remove nav marker script gets rid of all nav markers including the ones on the objectives. Unfortunately if you accidentally remove the ones on objective items they NEVER come back. Real talk they're just gone. This is something me and @Agent Zero85 ran into awhile back. BTW, switching teams has nothin to do with it, our teams were just unbalanced when I launched
gotcha. thanks for the details. In this case I am actually no longer intentionally removing any nav points, just adding them. If someone switches teams, after a few sec they get new navs for their canon. The existing ones for their former team will just remain. I had determined a wihle ago (and posted in the bug thread) that removing navs for some reason treats the flag like a "player" and removes it no matter what you try.
I assume that you have a player on each team. Many other bugs have come about like this. Like scripts missing or destructive pieces gone.