2-4 Players Limitless

Hey man I see you took my advice lol
Everyone should check this out this is a great map!

 

Worry not about the feedback. Sometimes it takes awhile. People have to find time to download it, get a group together, play on it . . . all of which may take several days. I've only posted one map so far here, and it got no replies for over a week, but now has like 16 or so. Patience is your friend.

If you want to make sure you get feedback, maybe try signing up for the TCOJ lobby.

 

It doesn't need to be dead. Seriously . . . if you can give TCOJ a whirl, it will be less dead. It's hard for people to test a map well enough to give feedback without getting a group together. Just looking in Forge or at screenshots doesn't tell you how it will play. Most people don't have the time to get lobbies together for every map thread . . . remember, we're all just players, too. So they rely on having forgers participate in pre-existing lobbies that already work for their schedules. So I would really recommend signing up for TCOJ. You'll get some direct verbal feedback during play, and most times written feedback in the thread.

I know it feels like it would be better if, when you post a map, there were some unnamed group of individuals who were foaming at the mouth to bust out a custom lobby, play it to death, and give you awesome feedback . . . but the truth is that such things don't exist. Besides, if you do TCOJ a few times and folks learn who you are, then they will be more likely to leave feedback in the future.

 

Just as an FYI, I have downloaded your map. I will take a look in Forge and give you some feedback - promise.

Take my feedback with a grain of salt, though . . . I am no expert forger by any stretch of the imagination!

 

Okies . . . as promised, I took a look at this in Forge. Comments:

1. The map seems well-forged for the most part. You took a lot of care in making sure things line up to prevent bumps and ugly interfaces. That was very nice. There was one exception to this: the tunnel underneath the map has some messy object interfaces in the overhead (where you rotated the blocks to make your lengths of decorative green illumination). Given how clean the rest of the map looks, this was definitely noticeable.

2. Not sure I like the cyan or how much orange dominates, but that's totally trivial and entirely personal preference.

3. On a good note, some clever piece usage - the extraction objects down in the tunnel were an especially nice touch.

4. Big issue: Map is totally breakable. Starting from the 1x1 talls in either of the 2 center structures, you can jump onto the decorative platforms on the edge of the map (the platforms you put the soft kill zones on). You can also thrust-jump onto them from the Y-cross LOS blockers at the base exits. That one's a bit tricky, but doable. Either way, you can then just walk off the edge of the map and land on the protruding stunt ramps. You're no longer in any kill zone, and you can jump up, shoot, fall back down all day long. No one can get you.

My recommendation would be to rework both of those areas entirely. As it stands right now, those platforms look like a place you should be able to jump to and use as play space. That means people will do it. The soft kill zone won't stop them, and a hard kill would be really annoying - since given the design, people would assume that space is meant to be used. So you could either make it so it is entirely non-jumpable, or figure out how to make the space usable without allowing people to get off the map.

I'm not sure the soft kill zones around the borders of the map accomplish anything. You can run on the top of the wall for a good distance before the zone gets you, and all a jetpacker has to do is simply fall off the outside edge periodically to reset the timer. You literally could play a whole game from up there. And if there are other protruding objects on the outside of the wall besides the aforementioned stunt ramps, then you might not even need jetpack to do it.


I can't comment on how it plays, and I won't try to imagine how it might play just from walking around in Forge.

 

Yeah, the tall thins in the overhead. The rest looked fine - and I liked the security clearance doors. You did a good job with the extraction pieces there. It is immediately obvious what they are supposed to be, so you accomplished your goal precisely.

On the hard kill zone, as I was doing this in Forge, it might be that the hard kill would get you in-game (but I am not sure). If it does get you, then the problem that remains is that those platforms look to be play areas but are not, and jetpackers can still walk on the top of the boundary walls. They have to fall inside rather than out, but could still play the whole game from up there. Clever use of jump-thrust would work for that as well (so it's not just jetpackers that you have to worry about).

For the colors - don't worry about them. If you like them, use them. My personal preferences are for limited use of the blue, red, green, and gold. I don't like the 4 pastels as much. But that is entirely personal opinion, and I might not really even notice during a game. If no one else minds them, then you shouldn't, either.

 

As I remember, Green has two main entrances. For the most part, it actually played pretty well. But it wouldn't hurt to add another entrance to get that magic number for amount of entrances.

Unfortunately, as I remember it, it would be quite difficult to add a third entrance without a redesign of the map. You could try a drop down from the upper level of the map. I don't know where you could put this but maybe you'll find a way.

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As I look at the screenshots again, I don't think the struts are necessary. I'm talking about those at the third picture. Try removing them and then see how the map plays.

 

whereabouts does the NZT spawn?

 

I figured you would have seen the movie 'limitless' haha