So I figured I'd wait until you made your revisions until I responded despite the fact that we more or less came to terms over our discussion over XBL. I'm only making this post for the sake of a public response, not you Jake Keep that in mind. You've removed the critique of the video being primarily Duck bashing, which I appreciate. You are right, and I was factually incorrect on this. I even apologized to War and Fated and skype as I did a healthy amount of research prior the video in effort to portray everything fairly, so I'm pretty bummed there's a few things misrepresented here and there . That being said, every incorrect fact in the video has quite literally no bearing on the argument at all. In this case, Duck was brought on by War/Fated, and War/Fated were brought on in the same day. Same difference, there was a lot of friendship involved. The critique doesn't change the outcome of the argument. This doesn't change the fact that Duck is quite literally the ONLY single person in Forgehub history (I checked 6 years) that has had his map featured in the same day it was posted. And the write up was done by him, this happened multiple times. Regardless of who pressed the button, it's pretty suspicious. Ultimately this is a stepping stone argument. These are the same argument. As we discussed. There's no way to objectively prove this either way, but anyone with a memory and a brain larger than a goldfish remembers the controversy and stigma surrounding Bad Blood. I'm not directing this comment at you, so much as the people that agree with your argument. There were other maps featured that you listed that were also, fairly controversial. If you're going to disagree about the reception around bad blood, you're reaching for the stars. Fort Hank didn't even have a reception because guess what. It was instantly featured after Duck posted it. Weird huh. I never once denied any of Darth's actions? I just said it seemed like the sum of money being taken was exaggerated. I can cope with you on this one though, any sum of money being taken regardless of quantity is frustrating. But the events surrounding the backlash that Duck spurred on were hostile and what I see as childish. Not really sure what you're arguing here. ...okay? This argument has no bearing on anything. I have screenshots of Duck pretty much condoning the actions. More or less saying "Do what you gotta do". I didn't post them for the sake of privacy of the person who sent them to me. Right. And my source wasn't Darth Human. Like I told you, I saw raw numbers. And numbers don't lie. This has no bearing or relevance on anything, but to be fair, neither does my account in this regard against Duck. It was just extra details. We've already discussed this extensively and I think you see my point, but I'll reiterate for the sake of a public response. To the vast majority of the people watching videos on the FH youtube channel, a feature and a map preview are one in the same. It's just a video that shows off a cool map that they are told to check out. Being a work in progress has no relevance on this. The map gets the same reception, and the author gets the same recognition. You mention a lot of forgers outside a clique but there's just as many that are inside. I do see your point however, and my argument here wasn't ultimately convincing to be fair. I just think that there might be previewed maps that don't deserve to be previewed that were given the extra privilege because of their relations. Again, this is just a stepping stone argument. Thank you 1: This isn't just about Olympus. This is something that has happened multiple times where Duck has the ultimate say in something that isn't democratic at all. 2: I have screenshots to back that up that again, weren't posted for the sake of privacy. I already told I would show you them privately if you so wish. No, that is not an invite for anyone to see them. Feel free to call me on bullshit, I don't care. I have over a dozen more screenshots that I didn't use in the video because I didn't want it to seem like a Duck bashing video, and I have a dozen more that were submitted after. All of which, show Duck's true nature. This is something that I've been seeing happen since H2A outside of scheduled lobbies as well, anecdotal evidence is seen from multiple posts in the original CC thread by Xandrith. Ultimately you can spin Duck's message regarding Creative Force any way you'd like, but anyone with an ounce of common sense can see Duck's true intentions here. If he actually was looking out for the creative force forgers being used by Godly, why wouldn't he just message the forgers themselves? What in the **** does messaging a random youtube channel have anything to do with it? He has also not been shy about his distrust of Godly and CF, aka "Godly Incorporated". I have multiple screenshots backing this up as well.
Also, me telling Schnitzel, someone who is a friend of mine, "go **** yourself" is COMPLETELY different than Duck practically blackmailing and belligerently degrading community members he very clearly dislikes. I tell my friends to go **** themselves on a near daily basis. Do I need to post 15+ screenshots of conversations of Duck attacking people? Because I way more that aren't in the video. Ultimately, EVEN IF EVERY ARGUMENT YOUVE MADE WAS SOUND (and they're all fairly easily debunked) that doesn't actually change Duck's behavior, and even you see that. Minor fact checking aside, everything I said still stands. This guy is hostile and it's pretty easy to see. I've never once built a map for matchmaking, attempted to build a map for matchmaking, or even wanted to build a map for matchmaking. I never said Duck didn't do anything for the community? I'm jut pointing out some deeply rooted, personal inabilities for this guy to cope with, A LOT of people, on top of countless acts of belligerence and dedouchebaggery on numerous occasions. Duck helped you with a map? That's great, good for him. This still says absolutely nothing about all of his other actions. This is a red herring fallacy, if you wanted me to give your comment an exact title. If you can't see this and interpret this video as nothing but Duck bashing then that's on your own inability to actually see why I spoke on matters in the way that I did. You might be the worst poster I've ever seen. ....can you quote me on ever saying sucking ****/ass? --- Double Post Merged, Apr 11, 2016 --- 1: I was very careful not to say "Duck asked him not to featured Creative Force maps" but instead "Not to mention Creative Force. 2: I put the screenshot up for quite literally everyone to see, read, and form their own opinion on.