Forge TIPS 'n' TRICKS

Halo: Reach
Tips and Tricks
After some searching, I found no thread like this. If there is somewhere please remove this thread and link me to the thread

Basically, this thread will consists of tips and tricks you can do in halo: reach forge. Preferably, all tips and tricks should come with somewhat of a tutorial on how to do it.
Pictures are preferred, but not required.

First, a list of the...
Tips and Tricks:
I. One-way Elevator
II. Capture The Vehicle (Invasion)
III. Proximity Switch
IV. Spartan-only/Elite-only slayer
V. Safe Landing
VI. Underwater Information
VII. Green Objects
VIII. Stockpiler 'Goose
IX. Movable objects Immovable
X. Slow Down with One-Way Shields
XI. End game when Zombie Dies
XII. Vehicles affected by One-Way Shields
XIII. Fall Damage
XIV. Weaponless Glitch
XV. Survive All Falls
XVI. Min-Max Tech
XVII. Awesome Button
XVIII. Weapons Vendor
XIX. Merged Explosives
XX. Fake Walls
XXI. Evade Jump
XXII. Jetpack Jump
XXIII. Boats
XXIV. Unlimited Armor Lock
XXV. Advanced One-way Shield Techniques
XXVI. Directing Teleporters
XXVII. Fixed Weapon Techs
XXVIII. Advanced Elevator
XXIX. Increasing Mancannon Power
XXX. Weapon Stands
XXXI. Tractor Beam

I. One-way elevator

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The one way elevator is very simple, and consists of One-Way Shields, nothing else is needed. It looks nicer if you add some walls around it tough, but that's up to you.To make a one-way elevator, build One-Way Shield Doors with the red/orange side pointing towards the way you want the elevator to go. Build them in a chain in any direction (usually up, but any direction works). When you touch any of the shield doors, you will be propelled in the direction the red/orange side is facing.
Pictures of it in action:

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The elevator itself, me below it:

I jump up into it, and pop up above it (a):

Without the shell:

Me jumping into it...

And me getting propelled upwards.

Also, a link to B3NW's topic explaining this: http://www.forgehub.com/forum/halo-reach-forge-discussion/103771-one-way-lift.html

Discovered by several people, including me and B3NW among others.

II. Capture the Vehicle (Invasion)

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This is basically a very simple way to make a pretty cool change to a phase in invasion of CTF

The difference is that in this gametype you already have the flag, but needs to get the hill back. The hill, in this case, is any vehicle. (kind of hard to bring a bunker to your base, huh?)
To do this, follow these steps:

1. Build a flag stand or similar.
2. Change the GAME TYPE LABEL to inv_obj_flag
3. Change the SPAWN SEQUENCE to whatever phase this should be the objective
4. Build a vehicle of some sort
5. Change the vehicles GAME TYPE LABEL to inv_objective
6. Change the shape of the vehicle to rather large, so you need to stand next to it to return it.
7. Dont forget to make all the other changes that's needed!
8. In the gametype, change CORE CARRIER TRAITS to 0% speed and 0% jump height.

Unfortunately, this only works with other phases being territories, or ctf like this (capture the vehicle), because the core carrier cant move while holding the core (which forces you to get the vehicle instead). As the core carrier traits affect the bomb carrier too, assualt is impossible to do too, unless it's "Get the vehicle to the bomb and then arm the bomb".

One last thing: This might be possible in normal ctf. I haven't tested.

Discovered by me.

III. Proximity Switch

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The Proximity Switch is basically an old switch that kinda works like the one from Halo 3, the wire tech. Just this time, it's WIRELESS!
It works by spawning a man cannon 2 seconds in the game next to a movable object of some sort. Then, the movable object wont be affected by the spawned man-cannon unless someone either shoots the object, or comes close to it, unlike in halo 3, where you needed to touch it. When this happens, the object is launched by the man-cannon, which could be used for some excellent crushing traps.
Here's how close you need to be for you to affect the object:

notice the crate did just lift off the ground

Discovered by me among others.

IV. Spartan-only/Elite-only slayer

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If you want to play a slayer game, where you are only allowed to either be spartans or elites, this is how you do it!
You need to make your own gametype just how you want it, but you need to either base it off Slayer Pro (Spartan-only) or Elite Slayer (Elite-only). It's as simple as that. If you want the players to be their preferred species, just base it off normal Slayer.

It's that easy!

Submitted by Julenissen666.

V. Safe Landing

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Is it possible to land safely when flying far away in a man cannon? Yes, of course!

It is very simple, when you hit the ground in high speeds such as ones created by mancannons, you die. Unless, you hit the ground with an angle. Like this: (Awesome lines drawn by me)

it's that easy. No need to come crashing down and die now
Just change the man cannons angle to produce this result
Discovered by many, including me amongst others.

VI. Underwater Information

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This is more of a tip than a trick, and more of information than a tip.
This is basically a list of alot of objects and their minimum Z-coordinate to be able to stand/crouch on it in the water without drowning.

Here's the list:
Grid: 1.7
Building Blocks
1x1/1x2/2x2/2x3/3x3/3x4/4x4/2x4/1x4: 1.1
1x1, Flat: 1.5
1x1, Short: 1.1
1x1, Tall: 0.1
1x1, Tall&Thin: 0.1
2x1: 1.5
2x2, Flat: 1.5
2x2, Short: 1.3
2x2, Tall: 0.1
3x1, Flat: 1.5
3x3, Flat: 1.5
3x3, Short: 1.3
3x3, Tall: 0.1
4x4, Flat: 1.5
4x4, Short: 1.4
5x1, Short: 1.5
5x5, Flat: 1.5
Bridges and Platforms
All Bridges (Six first in "Bridges and Platforms"): 1.6
Dishes: 2.0
Corner 45 degrees and Corner 2x2: 1.4
Corner 4x4: 1.7
Landing Pad: 1.6
Platform, Ramped: 1.0/2.6 (main area/lowest point)
Platform, Large+XL: 0.6
Platform, XXL: -0.4
Platform, Y: 1.5
Platform, Y, Large: 2.1/1.7 (low part/high part)
Sniper Nest: 1.6/-0.5 (lowest point/sniper spot)
Staircase: 2.5/0.2 (low part/high part)
Walkway, Large: -4.4
Doors, Windows, and Walls
-The following items were flipped 90 degrees in a way that they makes excellent ground-
Window, Double: 1.5
Wall, Corner: 2.1
All Walls (including curved): 1.5
Wall, Coliseum: 1.4
Window, Coliseum: 1.1
Buildings
Bunker, Small (+covered): 2.0/1.6 (lowest point/main area)
Bunker, Box: 2.4/0.6 (floor, roof)
Bunker, Round: 1.8/1.7/0.0 (lowest point/floor/roof)
Bunker, Ramp: 2.1/1.4/-0.4 (lowest point/floor/roof)
Pyramid: 3.4/1.6/0.1 (floor/ramps/roof)
Tower, 2 Story: 1.3/-0.9/-3.1 (first floor/2nd floor/roof)
Tower, 3 Story: 2.3/0.3/-2.2 (first floor/2nd floor/3rd floor)
Tower, Tall: 0.1/-1.4/-2.9/-4.4 (lowest point/first floor/2nd floor/roof)
Room, Double: 1.3/-1.1 (floor/roof)
Room, Triple: 2.6/-0.6(floor/roof)

Oh, and I think it's worth mentioning that this is also very good to see the height differences between the objects, which you can use to reduce bumps between objects.

All objects that can be used for ground added. Tell me if you want any more to be added

Tested and written by me.

VII. Green Objects

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Everyone likes green objects, right? This is a pretty cool aesthetic trick that changes an object to a green-ish colour. Basically, you need to phase it into certain trees on forgeworld. Just nudge it in there, and I bet you'll find just the spot. I can assure you it works, heres a screenshot of it:

Please tell me you see the difference

Discovered by Waylander.

VIII. Stockpiler 'Goose

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Oh hey, this is a cool change to an otherwise also cool gametype.
It's really quick, and really simple.
You basically make a mongoose the flag spawn point, and everytime the flags are reset or respawns at the flag spawns, they appear wherever the mongoose is. To do this, follow these steps:

1. Make sure you have set a hill or similar to be the flag drop-off zone (setting the label to stp_goal)
2. Build a mongoose
3. Change the mongoose's label to "stp_flag".

That's it!
What, really? Only three extremely small steps?
Yup, it's that easy! All you need to do now is to start a epic game of Stockpile
Discovered by Smeagle.

IX. Movable objects Immovable

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Unless you didn't know already, there's an easy way to make movable objects (such as weapons, crates, and similar) immovable! All you need to do is to change the items "PHYSICS" to "FIXED", and place it on the map.
When an object is immovable, you can also phase items through it!
Here's a cool screenshot of it:

Hey, who put that sword there?
See how awesome it looks. And you can make it way cooler!
Remember, you can only phase other items through these items that used to be movable, not vice-versa. Happy awesome forging!
Discovered by Waylander.

X. Slow Down with One-Way Shields

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Here's a pretty neat way of slowing down when for example launched through a man cannon or boosting with your ghost/banshee.
You simply build One-Way Shields, with the red/orange side pointing towards where they are supposed to go to. Believe it or not, if something goes fast enough it will slow down when going through One-Way Shields. It still launches things that doesnt go fast enough, which makes it perfect for something that hinders you from dying when launched through a man cannon.

Discovered by shidarin.

XI. End game when Zombie Dies

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We all know the anoying bug by now, amiright? Playing a nice custom game of duck hunt, someone epicly gets throught the whole track, kills the zombie, and then... nothing. Leader has to end the game, start it again, and by then people are annoyed already.

I have found a way around this.

*WARNING* This will only work on games with only 1 life. If you try doing this with more than 1 life per round, it wont work, and the infected wont be able to infect anybody. This is perfect for games like duck hunt only.

Instead of placing blue spawns where the infected is meant to spawn, place him as red, and everybody else as blue. Once the surviver (the zombie) gets killed, he joins the infected team (the survivors) which automaticly ends the round. Simple!

You might be wondering "BUT ZID SUX BCS YOU CANGT GIVE TRAITS TO ZOMBIE".
Wrong. Just make traits for him via "Base player traits" and the traits for the rest, in the infected traits. All that really happens here, is that you are just reversing the zombie with the survivors.

This also means ingame, when it says "new zombie", you are actually the survivor, not the zombie.

Hope this helped some people out. I will look forward to seeing you guys, and maybe making some maps for your people's enjoyment.

TL;DR. Invert the spawns. Do it.

Credits to Norbo11 for all the text which I, being the lazy ****head I am, copy and pasted.

XII. Vehicles affected by One-Way Shields

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Basically, keep in mind that vehicles aren't affected by one-way shields unless someone is actually inside the vehicle.
Discovered by em0srawk, probably amongst others (such as me)

XIII. Fall Damage

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Copied this thread:
Fall damage findings I've noticed that lots of people are complaining about fall damage and thinking of ways to avoid it, I decided to make this thread to place tips of avoiding fall damage and such and also to post the results of the test I ran.

I ran a test to discover the hight at which fall damage kills. I had a guest drop from certain hights onto a platform that I know the hight of (35 Co-ordinate Z nudge hight). I discovered that they died at the hight of 43.6 Co-ordinate Z nudge hight.

This means that fall damage is fatal at an 8.6 Co-ordinate square drop!

I hope this help people (Idk how but whatever) and please post your findings and tips.

P.S. I was going to see the minimum hight it takes to get effected by fall damage but I forgot to

EDIT: This test was done on Spartans


This test was done by em0srawk.

XIV. Weaponless Glitch

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This glitch tutorial on the weaponless glitch, known on halo 3 as "lowering your weapon", is copied and pasted from the original thread
I've 'discovered' a new weaponless glitch! I say 'discovered' as a disclaimer, I haven't seen it on the interwebs and I found it using forge by myself.

WARNING POSSIBLY BORING BACKSTORY:
I discovered this glitch when forging my invasion map. When a bomb went off, I wanted a whole base to be destroyed so I set them to Gates on sequence 1. After I added the weapons I playtested it. When the bomb went off there was a DMR floating in the sky, I went back into forge and set the DMR to sequence 1 Gate. when playtesting it dissapeared from the base when at sequence 2 but I discovered that if I was holding the weapon it dissapeared from my hands! Anyway, onto the method of doing this.

THE WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THIS:
Firstly, place an objective, sequence 1. Then, place atleast 2 types of weapon down, specifically ones you don't spawn with and set them to spawn sequence 1 and label the INV_GATES, I suggest that one of those is an energy sword. When holding those weapons, capture the terretory and when phase 2 starts, KABLAMO! The weapons you were holding will despawn and you're left with nothing! Depending on what you had equipt, your arms might look natural (If you were holding a rocket launcher when you lost your weapons, one of your arms is seriously messed up).

Anyway, thats how you accomplish it. Later today I'll put links to my gametype and map for this.

UPDATE 30/9/10:
Uploaded my map and gametype to my fileshare - Click here to download
Note: you don't loose the turrets so don't bother trying, you can however carry a turret around and still have no weapons (if that makes sence).
Quote:
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Originally Posted by Chan
Sword with weapon lowered.




Hammer



Thanks for adding screenies! I didn't realise that lowering your weapon would effect your pose. I've aslo noticed that you can't crouch when you're like this instead, you raise your hands like you're holding a gun but if you look at it from the right angle it looks like you're clapping.

Originally discovered by em0srawk.

XV. Survive all Falls

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THIS IS CONFIRMED, IT WORKS.
To survive a fall from ANY height, ANY, simply press crouch when colliding with the floor. Remember, timing is important! REALLY IMPORTANT! I've done it ONCE. ONCE. I tried like twenty times.
Submitted by Dulden, also discovered by others.

XVI. Min-Max Tech

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By using this tech you can make destroyable items being able to spawn at certain spots when you destroy another duplicate of the same item.
Basically, place two land mines. Change the setting on one of them to:
PLACE AT START - NO
SPAWN TIME - 180
And then change the setting of the other one to:
SPAWN TIME - NEVER
and change:
MIN COUNT to 1.
Next, start a new round and destroy the second landmine. The first landmine will now spawn.
Lots of people discovered this.

XVII. Awesome Button

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Lots of people probably already know this (a guy posted a map with this), but the min/max tech from Halo 3 is still here, and easy to do with landmines To make a button work using a landmine so another landmine spawns somewheres else (hit the button just as someone is about to walk over where it spawns?), you gotta first make sure that you have both landmines spawned. Set the one that will spawn to 180 spawn time and place at start to false. The one that you use to spawn the other one must have never as a spawn time. Then, go to advanced options on one of them and set minimum to one below the number of landmines place and maximum is at how many is placed.

Now, as mentioned in the main post on how to make moveable items stay in place and the fact that you can phase items into them, put both landmines to fixed and place them where you want them.

For the one that activates the other, put it somewhere with the blinking red part facing towards the side of the wall that the person pushes the button from. Phase a wall into it to the point where just the blinking part is sticking out. Phase a shield door slightly into it so it looked like the wall is a TV when it loses connection (it looks static-y). Now, start new round. Hit the button and the other landmine will spawn!
Submitted by LRMAN0989.

XVIII. Weapons Vendor

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This is a really easy, smart, and cool way to make a mini weapon vendor. Basically, throw a grenade into it, watch it explode, and take your weapon.
I'll simply quote General LiWar here:

See, easy!

XIX. Merged Explosives

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Following is some information regarding Merged Explosives. Use with caution!

If you merge a fixed explosive (to where it is completely covered/submerged) into an object (I use Wall Colosseum for a floor), Even though it isn't showing, if it blows up it can damage you.

- Land Mines work just the same, only they blow up when you step over them.

- Explosions in merged object also will trigger other explosives that are merged nearby (So you can have an entire room with hidden explosives). You can make a self triggered mine field with this or a more dramatic explosion in assault (I used this one, very cool).

- Nothing like shooting, grenades, or anything outside the object will affect the explosives.

- Only an explosive that is sticking partially out of the object will trigger the others inside the object.

And, to quote the original author, I'll end this tip with...
Go Wild!

Discovered by Mista Skittles.

XX. Fake Walls

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I'm going to quote em0srawk on this one, and for the twentieth tips and/or tricks there's even a video!

Woo, twentieth trick! Yay!

Discovered by em0srawk.

XXI. Evade Jump

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Evade boosts a player's speed momentarily, but that speed can be retained until the player touches the ground. Giving a player 300% speed and 50% gravity will allow clearing the gulch in one giant bound. The small hills are enough to send the player airborne over most of the distance. To take complete advantage of this, a ramp at ~30 degrees can send the player almost entirely across forgeworld. If increasing player speed to 300% is undesirable, using a mancannon to give a player speed before the jump has a similar effect (mancannons have no effect on players traveling at 300% speed). Evade jumps can solve the problem of allowing zombies to cross large areas quickly, speeding up gameplay in large infection maps. WARNING: Such high speeds are difficult to control, and hitting some objects can be fatal.

Credits go to pyro6666.

XXII. Jetpack Jump

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The greatest problem with a jetpack is gaining enough speed to actually go anywhere, and this can easily be solved by a mancannon. Without any changes in traits, a jetpack jump from the ocean in forgeworld using a mancannon heavy (angled directly upwards) can reach the flat area above the colosseum.

Credits go to pyro6666.

XXIII. Boats

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Cazmoldy have found a trick that allows vehicles to "float" on water, while Spartans/Elites do not. This makes the perfect boat.

YouTube - Halo Reach Tutorial: Usable Boats

Credits to Cazmoldy.

XXIV. Unlimited Armor Lock

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Originally posted by Dulden.

My friend found out how to become invincible. What you do is make an armor lock, go into player mode, pick up the armor lock, use it and go into forge mode while using armor lock. Now create a second one and click delete all of these. If you go back into human mode you'll be glowing and be invincible! The only things that can kill you is an enemy assassination or a kill ball. You can even fly around in a falcon! All credit goes to fluffyroks2 for finding the glitch.

As mentioned, discovered by fluffyroks2.

ALSO, here's how to do it in-game:
(Invasion only, posted by Kealan 02)
To do it, set an armour lock to INV_Gate in forge, with the spawn sequence set to a corresponding territory. Then, in game, when a player picks up the gated armour lock if the player happens to be in armour lock when the corresponding territory is captured, either by chance or being in the territory in armour lock for the last few seconds, the player will lose his armour ability, but still be in armour lock. On the players screen the character will look no different, and will be able to walk around normally. But to every other player in the game, the player will still have the glowing armour lock effect around him, and will be completely indestructible (with the exception of kill balls and map boundaries, which armour lock is susceptible to anyway). Rockets and grenades won't bounce off the player, and punching the player won't do EMP damage to your shields, but the player cannot be effected by damage, including fall damage, and splattering.

As an added bonus, the invincible player can still drive vehicles and use every other armour ability except armour lock if the player picks it up. So if you have any invasion maps you play custom games on with your friends, spawn a gated armour lock and watch them accuse you of hacking in bewilderment as you become completely invincible.

XXV. Advanced One-way Shield Techniques

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Copy 'n' pasted:

About the shield door part. I was constructing a race map and was trying to make the landing for a large jump just right. Using the shield door perpendicular to the landing ramp tends to slow you down almost to a crawl. I wanted the drivers to maintain as much of the speed they had as possible. After messing with the one way shield doors for a while I found a way to make it where someone could land a large jump even at a bad angle and not lose all their speed due to the shield door. The trick to it is making the angle of the shield door right. If you angle the door enough, it will actually not only slow you down, but it can change the angle at which you are traveling (not in a major way, but only enough to save you from wrecking).

Examples of angle changes and what they do are:

If you want the vehicle to be thrown straight to the ground, angle the shield door with the top in the direction the driver is coming from. ___\___

If you want to create a soft landing for someone doing a jump while moving at high speed all you have to do is angle the shield door in the opposite way listed above. ___/___

Depending on the angle that you use you will get different speeds at which it slows you down while forcing you to the ground or softening your landing.

When I say it softens your landing I mean that it decreases two of your speeds rather than just one. It decreases your forward speed of course, but it also decreases your falling speed. So when your wheels hit the surface you do not bounce.


Also to be noted, if you are moving fast enough, sometimes you may have to place more than one shield door to get the desired results. These shield doors most of the time do not need to be at the same angle, but they should be decreasing or increasing angles in the series (decreasing or increasing depending on what results you want to achieve).

Credits go to SirPalesAlot.

Please post your own tips and tricks.
I will add all the posted tips and tricks to this post.

STUCK and update-edits courtesy of pyro6666

XXVI. Directing Teleporters

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XXVII. Fixed Weapon Techs

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XXVIII. Advanced Elevator

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XXIX. Increasing Mancannon Power

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XXX. Weapon Stands

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XXXI. Tractor Beam

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XXXII. Jump Pad

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XXXIII. Ladders

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Video courtesy of Rifte:
YouTube - Reach Forge Tutorials Ep 5: Ladders

XXXIV. Drop Pods

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YouTube - Reach Forge Tutorials Ep1: Drop Pods

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Sorry B3NW, had no idea you've come up with that before. Link to thread? :3
Oh, and I found out another thing, maybe found before, but worth mentioning:
Spawning a, for example, heavy crate then spawning a man cannon 2 seconds later (1 second doesnt work) will make the heavy crate not be affected by the man cannon until it for example gets shot at (just like Halo 3, right) but theres a small difference. In Halo 3, a player needed to touch it for it to be affected (or shoot it or whatever) but in Reach, you only need to stand close to it.
Actually, if you get this close, it'll be affected:

Notice that the crate just lifted off the ground.
Let me add this to the main post too, wait...

Oh, and what was the first tutorial the One-Way lift was used? link?

 

Okay, edited the main post and added a link to your topic.

Remember to post your tips and tricks here

 

Yes, and even better, I find more tips and tricks and you other guys do too and post them here

 

Will test this and if it works I'll add it. Great!

 

Uh, I don't think so. And just to be sure, here's two pictures:
The first one, it still hasnt been affected by the man cannon...

The second one, it just became affected:


I think this speaks for itself. <3

Edit: Also added elite-only and spartan-only slayer to the list. going to bed now, cya tomorrow

 

I'm bumping this. I'm always looking for new tips and tricks, you should be too
dont forget to post them here :3

Edit: Also, I guess I could add a very simple how-to not die when using mancannons
It is very simple, when you hit the ground in high speeds such as ones created by mancannons, you die. Unless, you hit the ground with an angle. Like this: (Awesome lines drawn by me)

it's that easy. No need to come crashing down and die now

 

Reviewed, and all seems to be working Added to main post. Remember to post here if you find out anything other cooler :3

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