Lockout remake over Blackout

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by Blaze, May 12, 2009.

  1. Blaze

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    I have been missing the amazing halo 2 maps so much lately and so I decided to make a thread about this.

    If anyone took notice, a long time ago before black out was revealed someone faked a picture of a lockout remake. (vvvv) Remember that?

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    Who agrees that they would have been so much happier with lockout as it is shown in ths picture over that choppy, wanna be lockout, "Blackout.

     
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  2. Spirit798

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    I've never played it, but.. I'm amazed to hear so much is wrong with it.
    I mean, from the screens, it just looks like a different texture, and slightly upgraded map models.
    What -is- wrong with it? Is it smaller, larger, ...

    Also: Sandbox remakes of Lockout (Blockout, for example) are really great, so go download one of those. They play almost identically.
     
  3. EpicFishFingers

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    I see no difference other than an absence of a cliff face to the side of the map, and the new ability to jump from Top BR to the basketball room. So no, I prefer Blackout. There have been some good Lockout remakes on Sandbox now, but they're often bumpy and no-one's got the lift right yet.

    Also, magazine scans aren't allowed, even foreign magazine scans (judging by the "die", it's a German mag)
     
  4. Blaze

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    It's just not lockout... That's basically what is wrong with it. Though a few things that are bad is,

    The window that was in library was taken out and was a GREAT use of help in halo 2.
    It is slightly smaller because it has bulky pieces that seem to almost cruder the map a bit.
    There is no cave/roof over the whole map (which helped me A LOT when I played)
    The lift is slow and faulty.
    I could go on.

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    There are no walljumps onto the secondfloor from the bottom.
    There isn't a guardrail going off to elbow, which causes easy "rape" area. to add to that they made a railing going up from the back of sniper so that it's even more rape.
    They extended the snipe 1 room and now is easy to camp.
    The cores are not as useful as the original.


    It's fake. It's not real. The whole thing was photoshopped. So I think it's ok.
     
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  5. Spirit798

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    It's Dutch, actually, so it's either from Belgian source, or from Holland.
    ... It might even be the Power Unlimited. Hmm.
     
  6. DMM White

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    Wasn't that magazine cover a fake?
     
  7. Blaze

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    Wow. Why doesn't people just read the post and stay on topic.
     
  8. Vincent Torre

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    Play my map Blockout and see how you feel about remakes over Blackout.

    Obviously I can't stand blackout, there's probably over 100 things I could count that makes blackout a completely different map from Lockout. They just don't play the same, and if you don't know what that means you never will.
     
  9. thesilencebroken

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    I obviously dont care, because they arent in the same game, so no matter how close they ported Lockout, they wouldnt play the same and you guys would all still be bitching... so really... just put in the Halo 2 disc and be done with it. They are two different games for a reason. They didnt say they were releasing Halo 2 again, they said they were releasing Halo 3.
     
  10. H3C x Nevz

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    I don't see why people expect Blackout to play the same as Lockout. We're in a different game now. Halo 3 is far from Halo 2. Different physics, different weapons, different game style.
     
  11. Ethrock

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    I actually really enjoy Blackout myself.
     
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    Me too, definitely more than Lockout. Lockout was the most spammed map in matchmaking and custom games, and it annoyed the hell out of me. Blackout is nicer, cooler, and doesn't consume the entire game.
     
  13. Blaze

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    I'm not saying barely anything about halo 2s lockout. I am asking about the halo 3 remake. How people would have rathered it mainly look wise
     
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    I never played Lockout that much. But i dont see anything wrong with Blackout. Bungie really nailed all the tactical mlg jumps from Lockout and the appearance of Blackout is just as cool as Lockout
     
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    All of them? Really? I barely see any tactical jumps on Blackout compared to Lockout. Suicide Room to S2? No. Elbow to S2? No. They added new jumps which made it complicated to hold down a decent set-up on BR tower and made it too easy to control Sniper.

    Blaze, I never saw that picture, but I would've loved to have the same look as Lockout. Blackout 1v1's were almost ruined when the walls (not Forerunner parts, the icy walls of the map around BR tower and Snipe) were removed and you can't bounce grenades around the corners or spawn stick S2 anymore.

    I really like the look of the Top Lift area as a built in part of the map and about 50% Forerunner and 50% Natural. That picture resembles Lockout perfectly, just with upgraded graphics.
     
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    *Sigh* I was expecting to see a remake of Lockout built in the sky above Blackout...
     
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    I didnt even knew that these jumps were possible.
    I like Blackout.
     
  18. thesilencebroken

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    well in that regard, while i do like blackout because its refreshing and different, I would have liked to see that. It has a kind of natural beauty to it.

    I am just sick of people beating the dead horse as far as gameplay.
     

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