Debate Were Adam and Eve circumcised?

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  1. Whisper

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    So then incest is okay?
     
  2. EonsAgo

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    Do you refer to your relationship with your parents as incest?
    I honest-to-God (lol) hope not.

    God is like your dad. You don't marry your dad, you respect him as his son. You don't "go out" with your dad, you have father-son time. And you sure as hell don't... well I'll just leave that last bit alone.
     
  3. Nitrous

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    I suppose not. Godspeed eons.
     
  4. dented_drum

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    Well, consulting whatever ridiculous translation that suggests homosexuality is as much a God-ordained union as a man-woman relationship, I'm not sure he'd give the same answer I would.

    In my own Bible-thumping opinion: no.
     
  5. Whisper

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    So, if my spaceship, the Effervescent Dream, were to enter into the warphole of the Suprademons from Calyx IV, what about that?
     
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    Depending upon the size of the warphole, I'd say you're more-than-likely in for a pretty wild ride. As per the holy Deity's opinion of that, I couldn't speak.

    *promises this is the last spam post to the Debate Forum....or at least for this topic*
     
  7. smitty0018

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    I feel like I am hated right now :'(

    I hope that you guys don't find me even more dumb, but I'm going to try to answer Nitrous's question in his sig. Hopefully this makes sense.

    First off, do you believe that people should have free will? If not, then Nitrous has a piont and you can listen to his sig. If you do believe they should, then read on.

    If God took away all the evil in the world, that would negate free will. "How so?" you might ask. Well, the answer is simple. If you have a choice between good and evil, then you have free will to choose as you desire. If you only have the choice to choose good because God destroyed evil, then you do not have free will. Why is free will so important? Because without free will you cannot have love. I'm not necessarily talking solely about loving God, but even loving another human, such as your family or your wife. If you don't have a choice but to love them, then is it really love?

    On a side note, I really hope that no one has any hard feelings toward me because I really don't want that to happen. I really like everyone here and hopefully you don't see me as some wierd kid >.>
     
  8. dented_drum

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    Rest assured, friend, no one will have hard feelings. Keep in mind, though, that it's not hard to find someone that disagrees with you around here. Most of the time, those who disagree immediately develop unnecessary hate for you, and that is a result of their ignorance =]


    I believe, though, that Nitrous would counter your "free will" answer by noting that you believe God to be all-knowing. If God is all-knowing; then, He knows the outcome of your life and the decisions you will make. If those decisions are already known by God; then, they have already been made. Therefore, you do not have free will, but rather a pre-determined life.

    Please note that I disagree with the previous statement entirely, but I said it so that you'd get an idea of what you'll face when you post your opinions. Also, Nitrous and I went through that particular debate for a long, long time.
     
  9. smitty0018

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    Hmm, good point. I never really thought of it that way to be honest. I'll have to ask my teacher that tomorrow, ha. Now I'm really curious, you have got me thinking sir.
     
  10. Nitrous

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    Free will only comes into play when we have an alternative to choose from. For instance, you are free to go left or right but you are not free to become god. You are not free to become god because the position is taken and is out of your reach no matter you will it. Now, if god is only a force for good the choice between good and evil should never exist in the first place. You should only be choosing from two different "good" actions.

    And really if you find that answer unsatisfying, it matters not. Free will doesn't come into play. And, in all seriousness, an objective morality doesn't make sense either.
     
  11. smitty0018

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    Ah, brain hurts. I'm calling it a day. Hopefully I can find some more things out tomorrow at school. If not, I'll have to ask you to explain more, because your ideas seem very sound.
     
  12. What's A Scope?

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    Foreskin is a nuisance. You must clean it more than if you were circumcised.
    May sound stupid, but most girls rather it that way.
     
  13. thelastsparten

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    the purpose of circumcision is to continue the covenant that god made with Abraham there are no medical reasons
     
  14. smitty0018

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    Yes, I stated that in the first page of the thread. But how do we know why Abraham started it?
     
  15. Nitrous

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    So its just to continue a tradition started in the old testament. Why don't we stone disobedient children then?
     
  16. squidhands

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    Yes, this a totally logical argument.




    God: "Hey Abe, can you do me a favor?

    Abraham: "Of course. Anything for you, big guy."

    God: "Well, I'm a little embarrassed to admit this, but it seems like I accidentally left some extra skin on all of the male penises (or should that be peni? I'm still working that one out). I got a ton of **** going on right now and I can't really go and retroactively remove them all myself, so could you be a pal and help me out here and whack those little suckers off (by the way, that'll be a pun later on in the future, lol) for me? Thanks."

    Abraham: "..."
     
  17. domomd367

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    I actually cannot believe you just typed that. It is not an opinion, a belief, or anything. They didn't exist, get over it.

    Again, i'm not, i am just stating facts. Adam nor Eve have nothing to do with theism or atheism, they did not exist. However you believe the world started, the biblical version of adam and eve (2 homospaiens) Where not there. End of.

    Anyway, back to circumcision. I am not exactly and expert on it, so can someone explain, how removing the foreskin makes your ***** less likely to suffer form disease? I would of thought that circumcision would just encourage disease to come along, since there is nothing to stop it..so to speak. Not saying thats right by any means, just what i WOULD of thought.
     

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