Guitarz

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  1. Ryan. K.

    Ryan. K. Ancient
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    I'm getting a new guitar so which one do you guys advice?

    I already thought about an Les Paul Epiphone.

    Remember, one that isn't too expensive, please.
     
  2. Dr. Chombie

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    Well I don't know what your range in expense is but personally I love the Gibson X-plorer. I also own an Epiphone Flying V which is another favorite. I think that these two guitars, depending on which one you get, may not be that expensive. A really good one but not too expensive might be around $1000 (not sure if that's too much for you).
     
  3. EGP

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    Studio's are very nice if you can affored them, I have a gibson les paul studio natural finish.
    Ya but if you can get an epiphone they are pretty good for there price
     
  4. The Cheat

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    Get ready for a long read:

    Well, the guitar you should buy all depends on affordability and the sound and style you want to play.

    A Les Paul is a very well balanced guitar, as it can emulate many styles and sounds. However, then main drawbacks of it, are it's heavy weight, and heavier price tag. As very few Les Pauls go for less than $1000 (if you want a brand new Gibson.)

    A Fender Stratocaster is very well balanced as well. It's just as balanced as a Les Paul, but without the weight, and it's a little cheaper (only about $1000). The Stratocaster also has a dynamic tremolo, which allows for easier pitch bending and string tension changing for held chords. The dynamic tremolo can also be changed from a five string tremolo to a three string tremolo if desired, to increase the vibrato effect even more. Dropping the two strings however, will make the guitar fall out of tune quicker.

    Now, if your going for a specific style, then there are many other guitars to choose from.

    The Gibson SG is rather nice guitar. It is quite balanced, but it's pickups make for a more powerful "crunch". ($700-$1000 for the Gibson Model.)

    BC Rich makes some good guitars, all of which however, are more suited to the "Metal" genre. Their guitars however, are of very good quality, and are relatively cheap. ($200-$600 depending on Model.)

    Ibanez is quite popular, although I don't really prefer them. Their guitars are relatively cheap too. ($150-$500 depending on model.)

    I hope this helped you choose, although if I were you, I'd go to guitar center yourself, and play a few, and see which one is best.

    ~The Cheat~
     
  5. bnasty574

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    Considering that you bought an epiphone les paul instead of a gibson, you really shouldn't be playing guitars at all.
     
  6. Resix

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    i have a really cheap guitar its a Squier bullet its not to fancy but it plays nice and it looks good. so i reccommend that.
     
  7. Skill Caster

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    My friend recently got the Epiphone, I asked him and he said he really likes it. When I went over, it looked pretty cool. He wouldn't let me touch it, though. =(
     
  8. wiggums

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    I have an epiphone natural 1958 explorer... shes a beauty she is..
     
  9. Mastar

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    I have a DDI acoustic guitar. I bought it from the supermarket for $70 (that's like US$35)

    It sucks, but its fun to mess around on :]
     
  10. stin10

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    well i play the bass guitar, so i'm not to big of a help, i use an austin, and i wish i had a fender, but i digress, gibson is most likely the way to go. if your really cheap, a strocaster. but once again, i don't know to much about it.
     
  11. Sage

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    There is this sweet new guitar that is amazing i cant think of the name but it auto tunes and you can have several tuning sets so you can do some songs that you couldnt do before because of tuning problems. and it just looks sweet.
     
  12. The Cheat

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    I believe it's the Gibson "Robot" self tuning Les Paul or SG. Mighty fine guitar, if your willing to pay the $4000 price tag. :(
     
  13. thesilencebroken

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    Ibanez are cheaper guitars, but play very nicely, and theyre reliable. I own 2.

    PRS are decent guitars. i dont LOVE them, but they are okay.

    BC Rich are a piece of ****. All of Them.

    ESP/LTD are solid fantastic guitars. Check them first.

    Fender are really thin sounding.



    coming from someone whos been in a band for almost 10 years. I dont play guitar full time, but i know a thing or two.
     
  14. wiggums

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    link??? any more info??? darn. really wanted to see it...
     
  15. Pigglez

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    I play a Fender Strat, and I love it, though Im thinking of getting an acoustic soon... or another electric...

    anyway, Fenders are great, although I'd get a Gibson Les Paul. Besides the fact its my own company (Rofl) but the Les Paul is awesome... it just is. Face it. And then Buy it. XD
     
  16. SargeantSarcasm

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    dude...ask Textured Sun...he should give some good advice concerning this topic...
     
  17. TexturedSun

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    You rang?

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    Basically, through my own personal experience, unless your budget is above £500 (US$780) you're generally gonna get a guitar which is below par. Thus, you end up with sub-par sound quality from the pickups. There are always exceptions to this rule, but you get what you pay for.

    For example:
    - I have two Fender Telecasters. A 1978 Custom re-issue and a 1950's re-issue. The replica circuitry in these guitars is of a higher quality than your regular-joe korean/mexican standard (of which i have owned many years ago).
    - I owned an Epiphone ES335 Dot. The sound was horrific. If you've ever played a genuine 335 you will know the tone should be rich on the neck pickup, while the bridge pickup should be jangly, you still get plenty of sustain. The Epi version was really really thready. The signal was very very weak, simply down to poor quality frets and pickups.


    Your choice should be based upon the following:
    - Shape / Style you prefer.
    - Your current rig. (i.e:- The amp you use; the settings you have on it, and any effects you use).
    - The sound you wish to achieve (for example, you can't buy a Les Paul and expect to get it sounding like a Rickenbacker or a Gretsch Electromatic without some modifications or changes to your setup).
    - Budget.
    - Willingness to change-out standards stock parts of the guitar for more refined parts, customised to your own needs.

    Answer those and i can help give you recommendations.

    Of course, i'm assuming you're wanting a new guitar for a serious musical reason, not just for ****ing about with or to make you look cool. If its the latter, then my answers would be totally different.
     
  18. Ryan. K.

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    Thanks for the advice everyone, it helped.


    I just started playing the electric guitar howwever I've played acoustic for over three years.

    I love the shape of the les paul, though it doesn't really matters, just if it sits nice and comfortable.

    I have a really small amp that ****ing sucks but I should get a new one.
    I don't use many effects as I like the original sound of the guitar.

    I'm not to sure about the sound I want... My budget sits around 500 euro's if I can get to it.

    I am willing to modificate the guitar to my own needs.
     
  19. TexturedSun

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    Apologies for my late reply, i'm full of busy these days.

    Right. First of all, playing acoustic for 3 years was a total bonus on your behalf. You should find the transition over to electric a breeze. Since you are only just picking up the electric, i would suggest going for something that is comfortable, rather than totally diving into customisation and modifications just yet.

    Thus, you should be going to your local guitar shop (preferably one with a varied stock) and simply trying out different shapes, makes and styles to see what suits you. Try everything, even if you don't really like the shape or whatever. Its still valuable as you'll be able to judge the types of neck you like, how many frets you want (although its not a necessity), the weight overall, layouts of control pots and switches etc.

    Once you know what you like the feel of (the feel of a guitar is more important than its looks), narrow it down to a few favourites and play them through a decent amplifier in the shop. Specifically an all-tube one. Don't settle for the DSP electronic crap, use a real tube amplifier so that you know what its true tone will be. Play a few different things on each one, of different styles so that you know how versatile it will be (and how comfortably you can play them on it). A few basic rules of tone go:
    • Hollow-body guitars (like your big ES335's, Casino style guitars, semi-acoustics etc) will sound bassy and jazzier, but should still have a bit of jangle on the bridge pickup (not loads though).
    • Single coil pickups (ones where there is only one line of magnets and a single coil around them) will sound Jangly as funk. Stratocasters and Telecasters in particular are famed for it. On a standards strat you have 3 single coils and a 5 way switch, allowing you to switch between combinations of each pickup, giving different tonal properties).
    • Humbuckers (they're generally like two single coils strapped together) have a fuller sound, with plenty of bass on the neck. Some can sound very mushy and your notes can get lost when distorted, which is something to listen out for when testing.
    • Don't buy a Line6 guitar as they're meant to be used with the Line6 range of 'modelling' effects for amplifiers etc. Unless you have the time and money to invest in tweaking these to not sound like ****, don't get one. Ever.

    Once you think you've found the one, ask if the shop do full guitar setups, including: intonation; tuning; balancing, and fret adjustment (should there be any buzzing on a fret). Shouldn't be too expensive for this service and to be honest, they should throw it in for free.

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    For future reference, modifications to your guitar and the shape you choose go together hand-in-hand. The most obvious of these things is that a Hollowbody guitar (such as certain Les Pauls') are going to be harder to do modifications to (namely with pickups ...) since its just a hollow space inside. Whereas a solid guitar like a Strat can be routed to any shape.

    Now that doesn't mean you can't do such things to a hollowbody, you just might have to put support struts inside and such, which can cause a loss in tonality, sustain, resonance etc. Not that you should really be worrying about that kind of thing if you're only just starting to pick up electric.

    Picking your own parts for a guitar (bridge type, pickups, wiring, tone and volume pots, the possibility of 'coil tapping' and internal effects) is one of the coolest things to do when you get into it. You can simply buy a shitty guitar body and just build it to your own spec. Look at Matt Bellamy from Muse. He has a Kaoss Pad build into the body of his guitar, haha.

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    Sorry if thats a bit of a wall of text, and if any of it is just rambling. I hope it helped though. Knowing me, I've probably missed something out. If i have, just send me a PM or something.

    If you want any tips on buying an Amplifier, i can help you there too.
     
  20. Ryan. K.

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    Thanks for the great advice, I will use them when buying the new guitar!
     

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