Bungie Crippling The Sniper Rifle

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by Matty, Nov 3, 2008.

  1. Matty

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    OMG! They liek st00pid Bungie!
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    Hehehehe



    screw the edit KBAI
     
  4. Matty

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    The point is that the Sniper Rifle was already quite clearly the most unreliable weapon in the game. It works on LAN, but not playing overseas.

    I have seen hundreds of complaints about making the AR or Mellee weaker, but never one complaining that the Sniper Rifle was too powerful. Mastering the Sniper takes months of practice. Mastering the AR takes about 35 seconds.
     
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    come on now matty, gotta learn to read the whole thing :)

    they were ****in with ya
     
  6. Matty

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    Ooh was that their attempt at sarcasm? I read this on another Forum and merely copied the quote.
     
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    on their original update, there were two asterisks at the end of that paragraph. Then later in the update, they said the part with the ** was false. Therefore, they were just trying to see who was paying attention and cause an uproar of stupidity.

    obviously you just saw someone else's stupidity, and there was no way for you to know it was the joke.
     
  8. Matty

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    I'm still amazed that instead of replying to the suggestions / complaints about the game descriptively, giving reasons why they wont go along with the idea, they chose to act like idiots.
     
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    Common sense? A short to mid-ranged sniper rifle... I mean c'mon.
     
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    theyre kids, and bungie told them they were going to tamper with something they dont want them tampering with. lol

    look at how many kids STILL ***** about the BR changes... Im not getting into a debate here, because i KNOW that someone on this board will be one of them, but the BR was a ridiculous weapon in halo 2. They dont like it anymore because its not a death machine.

    Immature spoiled kids + someone changing something = hell.
     
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    That is where i use the Sniper most effectively.

    I consider long range to be in excess of about 800m, which is greater than pretty much all of the maps.

    Mid range combat, which is about the first zoom level, is where the majority of fights take place, and most others are closer.

    BR was introduced into Halo 2. Bungie wanted it to be the most used weapon. Maybe it was overly powerful, but almost everyone enjoyed using it.

    And what main weapons did Halo 3 introduce? AR and a removable turret. Both are far too powerful, but most importantly, far too versatile.

    You can't say that the AR isn't too powerful/versatile if it is the most used weapon on by a majority of the matchmaking community, yet it is a starting weapon. The SMG was the starting weapon for Halo 2. I didn't see many people with most kills with that.
     
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    i hate the assault rifle... smg starts are commonly used by me. I agree that the assault rifle needs tweaking.. however, the BR works perfectly now. In halo 2, it was far too powerful. Yes everyone loved using it, but it made the game so bland to me.


    however, take this with a grain of salt. I am a super noob, and the shotgun is my most used weapon. [without camping, thank you.]
     
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    The halo 1 pistol was hugely overpowered but it was awesome, loved by all and the best gun in any game ever imo. Overpowered weapons may be bad in concept but I don't think H1 or H2 would be half as popular as they were without them.
     
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    Oh, I see! The problem is not that you didn't read the whole thing. The problem is you didn't bother to read it at all!
     
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    you're correct... i think the pistol is now a little UNDERpowered, and i rarely see it used... however, that one aside, i like 3 the best. It may make me uncool, but i just didnt like 1, and 2 needed a little tweaking. It was horribly unbalanced. There are alot of maps id like to see back, but thats about it.
     
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    I agree. I believe that the major reason of hatred towards the AR is peoples familiarity with the BR, and their predetermined dislike which they gained from people they played with.

    I don't believe the BR needs to be better, but i believe it wouldbe a step in the right direction.

    I think the AR's range should be quite drasticly reduced, to make it less versatile and encourage more people to chose a BR over it.

    Melee lunge and damage should also be reduced, because with the ratio of close range weapons to long range ones about 10:1, i think less fights should depend on a system that is not fullproof and not down to the decisions made by the player.
     
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    Then why have the AR at all if you don't want it to be a versatile weapon? If you limit it's range, you've got the equivalent of a SMG that you can't dual-wield and has a slower melee. You guys are talking about how cool the overpowered pistol in H1 and the overpowered BR in H2 (which they are), but ***** about the overpowering of the Assault Rifle? I don't get it.

    That makes absolutely no sense. Are you saying that player decisions shouldn't determine the outcome of a fight? That's certainly how it comes across.
     
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    Meh, I killed 3 people in a row with a magnum ;)

    I have to agree with you though, magnums are only ever used in SWAT and Living Dead (don't worry, I didn't get my 3 kills there), and not exactly used that much anyway. They may have added it in Team Slayer as the deafult secondary weapon, but it complicates the game. You go to pick up another weapon (thinking you've only got one now) and you end up losing the AR/BR. There was really no point in that.

    As for the AR, I hardly ever use it. BR's are much more prefrable to me because it focuses on the accuracy of you aiming and is a greater test of skill. Carefully tracking your opponent with the BR is much better than spraying rounds of the AR. Most of this applies to the Sniper Rifle too - you need a lot of skill to handle it. Too bad I'm not fantastic with Snipers...
     
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    QFT. I always go for the Battle Rifle though I do keep an AR if I can't get Rockets or Sniper.

    I do agree with Matty about the AR. It is a bit too powerfull. I can't count how many times I've been killed by an AR at range and them running straight at me. It's annoying and it shouldn't happen. A BR should out do a AR at range (unless of course you are horrible with the BR). The damage and range of the AR should be reduced by about 5% Not too much but just ever so slightly.
     
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    Oh, it's my favourite weapon. Or should I say weapwn.
    It owns the AR, especially with duals. :D 'tis awesome.
     

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