Zeneta

umm this isnt bad
the interlocking is ok
but dont rate your map and certainly dont give yourself a 5/5
i give it a 3.75/5

 

I really lke the map but it seems a bit to open for my taste. In v2 put more stuff in the open.

 

This map seems kind of open and more cover needs to be provided in order for good game play, although the map itself looks like it holds great game play!

 

Yea, some of its too open, some of its too claustophobic (dunno if i spelt that rite), make a v2 like the suggestion above but interlock a bit more, so that you have smooth surfaces.

 

Very good job with the flipping of the bridges they allow great gameplay exscpecially on a higher level of the map good job

 

The middle is a bit too empty... You know there is nothing inside... Although the perimeter of the inside does seem to have roof cover. Great interlocking, but you used to many common items... abusing doors in this type of map does not make it look good, but the overall is not bad.

 

I like how in the base with the A sign you put the stairs, it looks great. But just as ZOMG said, the map is open in some parts, mainly around the too tall pillars with the receiver nodes on them. If you make a v2 add some boxes or dumpsters or barriers around in that area, or maybe even another pillar. Gj on the design though. 3/5.

 

It looks quite sloppy in areas and the open-ness doesnt seem to fit.

 

At the time I started posting, this map has only been downloaded twice, once by me and once by somebody else - but two other people have commented on it. Is this like a Bungie glitch or something? Or is somebody just inflating their post count?

Anyways, I just played a couple quick and dirty small party games on this map, and was... well, underwhelmed. One of the first things I noticed was how low the wall around the map was - and sure enough, it takes practically no effort to get outside of the map, and it's completely possible that somebody could be blown out by accident. Although it's possible to grenade jump out above the shotgun near the regen (and providing a good offensive sniper's perch for one flag), a grenade-free jump is possible by jumping off of the crane behind the plasma turret. No good, you guys.

During my game I found myself questioning the map balance. The way the power weapons are placed, whoever gets rockets is a hop away from the invisibility power-up; in a similar manner, some lucky punk gets to grab bubble shield shotgun and the overshield power-up before anybody else can reach 'em. Both of these players will start on one side of the map, a side that also has much easier access to the upper level walkways than anywhere else. That's right - an invisible rocketeer up above you. Run.

Meanwhile, the other side of the map has a shotgun and a sniper - as far away as possible from one another, with a regen and power drain in between somewhere. This is also where the "open" area of the map is that the other people in here have been complaining about. I actually don't find this such a bad thing. It's pretty rare to see this kind of dynamic in a map, where the long and short range combat can seamlessly flow into one another. While typically a map will have "close combat" areas, bases are an example, and "long-range combat" zones, such as corridors or plains. Zeneta forces you to be ready for anything at all times. You may not have time to grab your opponent's shotgun because you have to dodge that sniper guy's would-be headshot- but here comes that dual-SMG guy...

Speaking of the dual SMG guy, he doesn't exist. The ridiculous amount of
power weapons is way too tempting to pick up much more than everybody's favorite short/mid range headshot machine, the Battle Rifle. There ARE the aforementioned SMGs, a couple of carbines, and supplementary Assault Rifles, but let's be honest. There're a couple of niche weapons, too- A needler, which typically loses to a Battle Rifle before the chain reaction hits, and the Brute shot, which- well, actually, that's a viable weapon on this map, because of smart weapon placement- it's on the top level, so a player could shoot down into a melee and steal all the kills ...if the Invisible Rocket guy doesn't beat him to it. And/or kill you.

Moving on to technical: "Okahuh?" is my initial response. I really like the design, as I said before. Cool stuff, weapon placement aside. But, as cool as the design may be, some of the actual forging is a little, well... "shabby," I suppose you could say. There are bumps all over the place. They're small enough to typically not notice, but try walking down the ramp from rockets to bubble shield a couple of times for a particularly evident example. While the whole sniper tower gives a good view of the entire map, try trowing a grenade into the box, then trying to get the sniper. Odds are that you can't- the sniper has slipped down beyond your reach until it respawns. While I am not a fan of interlocking and geomerging at all, you seem to be, so perhaps you can shove those ramps down a bit, move those boxes into the wall, etc. to even out those areas. Another fault I found in the design was the difficulty of two particular jumps: Sniper to needler and bubble shield to Plasma Turret. The turret is in a position that makes vulnerable to rockets, shotguns, Battle Rifles, and snipers, yet to get to it you have to land on the width of a door, which it is entirely possible to miss when moving fast. The risk is hardly worth the reward (although I do have to admit that putting the turret up above the open field area was a great move). As far as the Sniper jump, one must jump on to the little corner to make it, and it's the only way up to the upper level on that half of the map (it's possible to jump on the vertical concrete barriers, but hardly practical).

Huge disclaimer for the next part: I did not ever play a one flag game with my friends, so my impressions are solely based on the placement of weapons during a one flag game.

Surprisingly, the one flag, despite being an accidentally supported by the map, seems as though it would be more balanced. One shotgun is moved from the bubble shield straight to the defender's base, who get to keep their sniper. The invisibility will still go to the offense, but the rockets will be more contested: offense gains a turret and the rockets are moved into neutral territory. Assuming two defenders can make that sniper-needler jump, the turret may be able to defend the rockets long enough to let his teammate grab rocket control. One possible problem is that the flag spawn is in the sniper box, allowing the defense to simply throw tons of grenades- they are PLENTIFUL on this map- into the box for a quick flag stop. But since the offense can use pretty much the same tactic to scare off the defense, and the flag spawn structure is pretty isolated, it goes both ways.

I know this post is tl;dr, and I know cheshter probably thinks I hate him or something. I simply think that this map has some great potentially that it has not realized yet. Maybe take a look at it, see what you can do, release a V2- or not. It's up to you, cheshter. I'm not trying to be mean or say "lololol ur map sux0r," I just wanted to mention some legitimate complaints, so that if you wanted to improve your map or methods, you'd have something to work off of.








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wow acosta that was some review and as swayed me into dl this map it looks good for free for all and one flag sounds fun