Did Walshy leave final boss for Str8 Rippin?

I was a bit worried for Str8 there. But snipedown is a great replacement for Neighbor, I don't think they are going to have much trouble in Toronto. Neighbor and Snipedown were both outstanding slayers in Orlando, they were going at it the whole championship series. Snipedown needs to stick with a team also, him leaving a 1st place team was pretty unexpected, and he'd do better overall if he stayed with one team so that team chemistry can build.

I'm thinking Str8 will take it for Toronto, but that is a bit of a wild guess because none of us are positive on how all the new teams will play together. FB will also be doing some damage, can't wait to see them play, Instinct I'm not really liking right now, even though Roy is sick when he gets into it, and not much can be said about TD until they get a fourth, which I'm looking forward to.

 

Troop the new instinct is beating up on the new Str8 in some online games, completely surprised me. I really would prefer snipedown go back to TD, they seem like they may return to mediocrity with two captain like players (Mackeo, and SK).


I'm rooting for new FB and particularly new instinct. HK Soviet, Lunchbox, and Roy are all disgusting slayers which makes it so they don't need walshy to try and get a ton of kills and be more of a coach (kind of what SK did last tournament).

I want str8 to lose bad so snipedown will go back to TD where he fits in best. Mackeo on psf would actually be pretty cool also.

 

That definitely surprises me, I didn't think Instinct would be any good, and Str8 should be relatively the same, maybe they just need to develop some more team chemistry.

Yup, TD picked up Mackeo (throws up in mouth), this was confirmed by Hysteria, so their new lineup looks like this:

SK, FearItSelf, Hysteria, Mackeo

I still can't wait to see what FB will do with Neighbor onboard.

 

To be completely honest, the Ogres and StrongSide are just as good if not better slayers than Soviet, Lunchbox, and Roy, so it wasn't like Walshy was depended on for slaying last tournament either. With that said, the team could just click better, so he could do better.

Snipedown is too arrogant and money driven to realize that he just screwed over a team that could easily repeat. I wasn't a big fan of Snipedown before Orlando because of how cocky he was, but after recent events, I can't stand him. If SK speaks the truth about him bailing on tD before they were interested in Elamite, he would have pulled an extreme douche move for leaving his top team for a sponsorship and lying about it by saying that he left after he figured out tD was interested in Elamite. He also said he turned down FB and Str8 the first time, but SK said if FB were to offer him any money at all, he would have left, and he would have gone to Str8 the first time if Neighbor didn't go back to them.

I am going to take SK's word over him because he actually puts together coherent statements on the forums while Snipedown is hated by most of pros. He has potential in MLG, but he really needs to start becoming more of a team player and stop being so ****ing selfish, so teams don't have to keep sacrificing chemistry to keep making roster changes to pick him up (ie. Instinct having to adjust to Snipedown and then adjust back to Victory between 2 events)

With that said, I don't think Str8 is going to very different as a team because Neighbor and Snipedown both do their own thing in games. Not to take anything away from Instinct, online games are pretty meaningless, so I think Str8 will be all right.

For Tornto, I really want to see Classic (with the addition of Victory and loss of Naded) or Carbon win Toronto with all the talk surrounding the top 4 teams. I would also like to see Ambush, PSF, CR, Anti Gravity, Breaking Point, DGK, and/or Status Quo making some noise.

 

I've been hoping for a TC win ever since they finished 2nd in the Meadowlands. I love watching Legend play, he is so smart and is an overall sick player. They just need to get their team together again. I'm hoping they'll make it far enough so that I'll actually get to see them play, I don't even know their lineup anymore.

I'm guessing that its: Legend, AnT, Soldier187, and now Victory X is on Classic?

 

That is the rumor. They are saying he has been practicing with them and Naded with PSF, but who knows at this point.

I also forgot to say that I don't think tD will lack slaying power anymore. Hysteria is a great slayer with the sniper, and SK and Fear both put up really solid stats using their BR's in support. I remember SK putting up 18 kills on Construct slayer.

 

Yeah but that was more of just a single great performance. Honestly it seems like to win in halo 3 you need two dominant main slayers and I think it's un-deniable that TD is a weaker team than they were.

Also with the thing about walshy on FB was Ogre1 even though he is nasty still plays the style of a support player and Ogre2 plays a more objective role in objective games leaving (Walshy does too) and Strongside mainly just kills but in H2 walshy was as good a slayer as any and I think FB kind of relied on him to do the same in h3, while his new team lets him be more of an objective/support player than he was on FB.


Also about SK, Snipedown regardless of whose story did not leave until Elamite was offered his spot so while he may have been thinking about leaving SK kind of pushed him over (even in his own story).


I think Instinct should change their name, it feels like a totally different team now.

 

I disagree. Lunchbox is a "support player" also. Also, FB does not really go by rules. Between the Ogres and Snipedown whoever is on with their BR or Snipe will take slaying since they all can at any point, and everyone else takes the back seat. Walshy isn't a bad slayer, but people see him go negative and assume that. He doesn't need to when he is surrounded by those three players. -250 is a little too much even for someone focusing on the objective, but I credit that to an off tournament. A change was definitely needed for that team, but I don't think it had anything to do with slaying potential. They really just weren't clicking in Halo 3, which is a shame because they were such a good team in Halo 1 and Halo 2 with Saiyan and StrongSide.

I really think people take the roles too far in this game. There are some players that naturally rack in kills or put in a lot of shots, but the pros are so good that they can adjust to their surroundings. When Neighbor was on Str8, they relied on him to get a ton of kills, but on a team like FB, we could see him become an objective or support player. With the top teams, it isn't a matter of who has the better BR or sniper because they all do, but it is finding a team that plays well together and recognizing teammates when they are hot (ie. At Meadowlands, Ogre2 or Snipedown had always gotten sniper, but when it came to Guardian Ball, Ogre1 was hot, and they let him take over instead of going by their rolls. For beginning teams, it is a good idea since there can be drop off in skill from a teammate to another, but the pros are all so good that it doesn't really matter.

I really think when Mackeo doesn't have to watch 4 TV's at one time and worry about coaching now that SK is around he will surprise some people with his individual skill since they will have lost some slaying power with Snipedown. I am not a fan of him, but I don't hate him and respect him for placing top 3 every tourney and staying composed when he catches all the **** he does. I really don't know where people fuel their hatred for Mackeo from (facial expressions, come on). I

Also, SK said that he didn't offer Elamite until he knew Snipedown had his mind set on leaving the team, which is understandable because if they have a player that wants to be traded, you look for a replacement (it is the same thing in sports).

 

I totally have to disagree on the slaying power part of your post, IMO slaying power is why teams are winning these tournaments. Basically the layout as I've interpreted in for a highly successful team is:

2 disgusting Main Slayers: (Ogre2/Strongside, Neighbor/Legit(when in beast mode), Snipedown/Hysteria)

1 player who is still a nasty slayer (possibly just as good) in their own right but doesn't go out of their way to get kills quite as much as the other two (Ogre1, T2, Fearitself)

1 player who plays an objective/leader/support role who feeds off everyone else but is still capable of winning individual battles (walshy (at meadowlands at least), Elamite, SK)


Also if you look at walshy's stats in his online games he really isn't up to the level of the upper top 4/5 teams when he plays them, he consistently goes negative and final boss I think felt he was holding them back. He seems more comfortable on the new instinct for whatever reason and I hope he does well there.


One more thing. I know you hate snipedown a lot, but whatever neighbor did was way shadier. That and the reason people don't like mackeo is he can be a total douche at times on forums and at tournaments (Construct slayer game against FB where they lost singlehandedly because of Mackeo sucking: "where's the **** is my ****ing cover!"

 

Agree to disagree. Mackeo is only trying to back himself up on the forums, which he has the right to when people are hating on him as a key part to a top 3 team.

I never said slaying wasn't important since you kind of need kills to win, but I disagree for thinking players are locked in slayer, support, or objective roles or that some players aren't capable of putting up a bunch of kills.

We will see with time.

 

I'm predicting FB to win the next tourney by a landside at toronto due mainly to their abusrd slaying power. We'll see but I think they've managed to put themselves ahead of everyone else and TD and Str8 made moves that removed them from that league alltogether. Instinct I don't think is powerful enough to beat FB but I do think they've made an improvement overall.

Toronto will be crazy.

EDIT: Str8 seems to be doing better with snipedown now in their scrims, we'll have to see if he can fully fill neighbor's shoes.

 

IT'S OFFICIAL.

Link. Final Boss Releases Walshy | Major League Gaming

 

^^^ Yes, we've covered that a while back, read the thread.

I really don't think that Str8 has put themselves out of a position to win. All they did was replace Neighbor with Snipedown, who both play very similarily as great slayers. Once they gel as a team I can see them doing the same amount of damage the've done in the past two tourneys.

 

Yeah I was just surprised that the new instinct was consistently winning games against them, but that was probably just because those were some of the first games with snipedown. The featured gameroom video of the new str8 is sick.

 

Gameroom video... I'll have to check that out. Also, is there a way to watch those games, or are scores just being posted?

 

No way to watch, with all the team changes going down I got in the habit of stalking the pros bungie accounts and looking on the games history.

Yes sad I know. I also do constructive things with my time.

 

I doubt that, :haha: (had to try the new smilie). How about instead of sitting at your computer looking at pros game history you actually get online, so I can have someone to run customs with since Nasty is too busy playing noob warz.

Do you guys know when TGIF starts?

 

I'm getting on now, troop isn't though:lol:


Sorry troop

 

Haha... you guys are so funny. I was going to try the hot towel trick yesterday until I realized someone had stolen my Halo 3...