Honestly, the +rep/-rep system is horrid. I see people posting positive comments with bad rep., and people posting negative comments with good rep. (Use the Search bar to see for yourself.) How reputation is earned is the biggest flaw in the system in my opinion. User generated reputation can navigate other users away from your posts, and in alot of cases lure users into false opinions. How to fix it. There's two ways, and the first way being the easiest. Remove it. The second solution, which would probably favor to moderators here, is to revamp it. I know forums are limited, but vBulletin is the most innovative one out there. Hopefully there are people out there that agree with this topic. And hopefully, there are a few out there that will give me -rep because they do not agree with me. Reputation (+rep and -rep) Code: [COLOR=red]Negative Reputation[/COLOR] .........Thread.........................Date............Comment............ [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_neg.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232350.html#post232350"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-03-2008 [COLOR=#333333]01:43 AM [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2]whiner.[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_neg.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-03-2008 [COLOR=#333333]01:47 AM [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2]lol complaining.[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_neg.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-03-2008 [COLOR=#333333]01:52 AM [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2]dont make threads complaining about your rep, or about rep at all.[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_neg.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-03-2008 [COLOR=#333333]02:22 AM [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2]In response to your ineffective neg rep...I wasn't taunting, you were complaining. <3 Tex.[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_neg.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/../18322-reputation-clarification-post232545.html#post232545"]Reputation Clarification[/URL] 07-03-2008 04:09 PM Heres some neg rep for contradicting yourself [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_neg.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-03-2008 [COLOR=#333333]06:15 PM[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2] quit yer bitchin[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_neg.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-03-2008 [COLOR=#333333]06:57 PM[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2] more negative rep for the bitching dumbass. leave this site.[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_neg.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-03-2008 [COLOR=#333333]10:23 PM[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2] No pity for you if it clearly states in the rules to stop posting these. kthxbai[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_neg.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-04-2008 [COLOR=#333333]01:05 AM[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2] OMFG, So you wanted neg rep, right??? That was the point of that thread, to receive more neg rep?[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_neg.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post234772.html#post234772"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-04-2008 [COLOR=#333333]01:46 AM[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2] NEGAREP MAKE JIMBODAWG ANGREH!!! HE GON DESTROH SITTIEZ NOW!!! RAWR... ok ok...maybe he won't destroy cities...but at least a few bottles of milk[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_neg.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-04-2008 [COLOR=#333333]02:20 AM[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2] No one cares, shut the heck up. Here, some more negative rep.[/SIZE] 1.) Wow, I was not whining about anything. Anyways, THANK YOU for -rep me for this. 2.) lol, I am not complaining, just submitting feedback regarding the rep system. 3.) Once again, not complaining, maybe you should read the thread thoroughly. 4.) Because of this: [quote="Tex, post: 232406"]Hey, you wanna make it four neg rep? I was seriously debating whether or not to neg rep you...Be thankful...[/quote] I gave him negative rep because this is taunting, and is not very friendly. He in return, gives me negative rep, [B]because I gave him negative rep.[/B] My tests are concluding that so far, it does not matter why people -rep you, as long as they feel the need to, they will. Also, note the little "<3" at the end of Tex's -rep, I sense sarcasm. 5.) Glad you have a vivid imagination. 6.) Wow, I am sensing a lot of illiterate people here. 7.) Once again, I am not bitching, complaining, or whining. I am simply giving a suggestion to the ForgeHub website regarding rep. Also, why should I listen to you about leaving this site? I don't even know who you are. And calling people names really doesn't do much justice. 8.) I used the search bar, and could not find a rule for 'not making suggestions to the forum'. Also, I know what rule you are talking about, the one to not complain about rep. But as I have stated before, I am not complaining. 9.) I said hopefully there are people who will give me -rep because they do not agree with me. Nowhere does it say I [I]want[/I] -rep. Honestly I don't see why you just didn't ask me this in a private message. 10.) I giggled at that one, but seriously... 11.) I hope you know that you're a very inconsiderate person. [COLOR=black][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][B]*******************************[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=lime]Positive Reputation[/COLOR] .........Thread.........................Date............Comment............ [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_pos.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232350.html#post232350"][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0066cc]Reputation Clarification[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-03-2008 [COLOR=#333333]01:56 AM [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2]we all have our times! -philthphillup[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_pos.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-03-2008 [COLOR=#333333]02:26 AM [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2]Lolz everyone hates you besides me~MLGLR playahater[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_pos.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-03-2008 [COLOR=#333333]02:44 AM [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2]I felt srry for everyone giving you bad rep... so i thought i'd even it out :) ~P0wnCakes[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_pos.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-03-2008 [COLOR=#333333]02:46 AM [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2]waaaa! why don't you cry some more.[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_pos.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-03-2008 [COLOR=#333333]02:48 AM[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2] I KNOW YOU'RE AN ALIEN[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_pos.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"]Reputation Clarification[/URL] 07-03-2008 03:41 PM You make a good arguement about this. I think people should be more considerate about how they give out rep and the reasons why. [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_pos.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-04-2008 [COLOR=#333333]02:03 AM[/COLOR][/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forgehub.com/forum/images/oldschool/reputation/reputation_pos.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://www.forgehub.com/forum/general-chat/18322-reputation-clarification-post232272.html#post232272"][SIZE=2]Reputation Clarification[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=2]07-04-2008 [COLOR=#333333]02:19 AM[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2] People will give -rep for no reason. And it is people like me that give +rep to deserving people, to balance out the idiots. Here you go.[/SIZE] 1.) Ya we do, but this isn't one of mine. 2.) Glad you don't hate me. :) 3.) I appreciate the +rep, I just hope you're honest about it. =P 4.) No tears, sorry mate. :/ 5.) Nope, I'm an Earthling. 6.) Thank you for agreeing, it's nice to know others are with me on this. 7.) Thanks. (no comment originally) 8.) Thanks for being one of the few people that give reasonable rep.
It's sounds like somebody got -rep and is pissed off. Maybe you should give an example on how to revamp it? hmm?
I could care less about -rep, post count, and other virtual benefits. So, I am honestly not pissed off about anything. I make a suggestion to the forum, and of course (of course) someone has to post something not related. I think that is spam, which does not abide the rules, and as I have stated is commonly posted by someone with +rep. See what I mean? Now to revamp it. Simple! I think moderators should verify/observe reputation. Problem solved.
LOL! "problem solved" he says..."Simple!" he says... Mkay, problem one with your solution... Rep is given by fellow members of forgehub (this is actually done at alot of forums) 2) Moderators have a shitload on their plate, last thing they need to do is worry about someone's "reputation" 3)...Linu's post wasn't spam if you ask me, as most "reputation" inquiries are brought upon the fact that someone gave them a neg rep, and they are just posting because they are upset about it.
Hey, you wanna make it four neg rep? I was seriously debating whether or not to neg rep you...Be thankful...
you just have to learn your limits. i got all my bad rep from the debates. almost everyone disagreed with me on the debate threads so i got bad rep. i now i just dont post there any more.
You don't need to worry about me editing peoples post, I'm an honest person. Also, no need to get off on the wrong foot with you Tex, your map packs are great. I'd hate to make enemies with another good forger.
I knew you were going to add mine...Glad to see you didn't edit my actual post. Kthxbai. Kay, 1st of you're still complaining...(most recent f5 concludes you're not a complete moron...(post from 1 minute ago)) 2nd, this list being compiled, tickles me. 3rd, twas sarcasm. 4th, I wasn't taunting, but sure, describe me in ways you feel necessary. 5th, "It does not matter why people - rep you, as long as they feel the need to, they will." And? That's kinda how the system works... 6th, Are you done yet? zomg, you rep+ed him?! -rep for you!!!!111one1!! lulz jk
Although I think this is a stupid thing to argue about, I do agree that the system has a flaw or two. I personally never negative rep people unless they've done something horribly stupid (post spam, got extremely off subject, called someone an offensive name, etc). I usually give out positive rep if someone explained something really well, helped people with a problem, made them a requested signature, and many other good karma things. The only real problem with rep is the fact that, if you have a complaint about negative rep and they didn't even give a clear reason, you should be able to talk to a mod and get it erased, especially if it has a large amount of swear words. Also, I would like to see the names of the people who gives positive rep, that would be nice.
The only way you can see who sent you the +rep/-rep is if they decide to sign their name at the end of it. This can also be a problem as someone can give rep and sign another users name.
Only stupid people sign their names on -rep. Just look for similar writing, for example The rep says "You're a *****" and a post in the tread says "Stop being a *****" It's obviously the same person.
He's right about figuring out who rep'd you, sometimes. And yes, not signing your rep makes it look like you're hiding from something.
Names should not be left on rep comments, it is anonymous for a reason. Putting your name on positive rep comments is just lame. You are supposed to earn +rep, not receive it as a trade off or returned favour. Giving rep to gain popularity = fail. Putting your name on negative rep comments will result in -rep wars and cause upsets.
The only reason people think you are complaining is because they have not experienced themselves the harshness of this rep system. If they had gotten to a point of having enough neg rep that they went red they would start to complain. Thus they would be a hypocrite. Notice how it's all the +rep people who are complaining about your thinking...