man that warzone map looks sexy.

until you see the unsc bases.

I like that Mercy, is a Haven remix.

New Arena map 'Mercy' is a remake of 'Haven' from Halo 4.

I'm probably looking forward to this update more than any we've had since forge launched. The prefab's are going to be awesome. I can't wait to see all the amazing objects that are sure to be published. I'm looking forward to prefab's just as much because it'll give us the ability to move maps. There have been so many times over the years that I've wished I could move a map to a different canvas. Now It'll be possible.

After this, the only other things I'd really like to see are more simple primitives (which I understand probably isn't going to happen), and the ability to add textures to all objects. Not being able to add them to the structure pieces (stairs in particular) is kind of a pain right now. Even without these additions, I'm still in love with H5 Forge. I honestly never expected it to be this much of an evolutionary leap, and I'm still blown away by it. If I ever have a son, his first name will be Tom, and his middle name will be French.

Additional weapons for weapon glitch hype!

That's disappointing.

Well, if 343 were to take any map from Halo 4, might as well be Haven. It may not be great, and very much on the bland generic side of designs, but it's pretty enjoyable. I honestly can't complain.

This was the best time to be on Forgehub. haha XD I can't wait for the update!
(Damn... all my forging time will be spent making prefabs now! which is a good thing)

I hope Forge on PC has re-bindable keys. That control setup looks pretty bad.

I would have preferred a bungie map remake, but in all honesty, if they were making any H4 map, this was the best bet.

I assume you're referring to the haven remake and not the whole update.

I have 2 maps that I put on hold because I didn't like the location and couldn't be bothered to start from scratch again. Not that either one was all that deep into the building process. That being said, one of the maps was pretty huge considering my typical map size.

It makes me sad how excited I've gotten for this Forge when it's still so far behind. I'm still hoping for upgrades that we saw way back in the console version of the Far Cry 2 editor. If somehow Forge could magically jump to what they have in Far Cry 4, could you imagine the stuff we could build.

I can't believe that in the Far Cry 4 you can just drop NPC's into that game and they will start dynamically interacting with the environment as well as each other. Imagine we had that in Halo. We could have a quick round of infection, just you VS 100+ infected, with no waiting for anyone else to join.

I was always so frustrated when an arena shooters didn't include bot play. Now It's been so few and far in between that I'm in shock when it's included. That's why I'm so happy to see PVE in Warzone. I just wish that they would toss enemy's (and UNSC for that matter) into Forge and have faith that we'll find amusing, if not good, ways to use them.

Hopefully there will come a day that Forgers will have the flexibility and resources to properly recreate entire levels from previous Halo's, with full NPC, PVE support.

All things considered, I'm happy for this update and the post game support 343 and specifically the Forge team has shown us. Thanks again Tom and crew.

I'm wonder if they went with Haven because its so simple that the H5 mechanics don't break it compared to a bungie map

I didn't like much from Halo 4 and Haven was okay to play but pretty boring to look at. Mercy kind of throws dirt in the face of all the players that say aesthetics don't matter.

With some recolouring and fog settings, Mercy could be easily mistaken for the Hive Aesthetic from destiny

I gotta admit, the Hunter claw cannon looks pretty cool. Radioactive crab style aside, of course.

I don't think I could agree with that. This aesthetic feels new and yet not too far off what we would expect. It's the Scifi lost in time feeling that Halo has that I love most. I hope the team working the campaign sees what's been done with Mercy.

Now if only I could get someone to make a game like the Galaxy Rangers

Aesthetics matter for selling games, not for playing them. Obviously I'm only speaking on my own behalf, but aesthetics add very little when it comes to playing the game. Contrast and landmarks are helpful from a gameplay standpoint, but beyond that I generally find them to be much more of an annoyance than a benefit.

Forgeworld proved that aesthetics aren't everything, but Mercy is a good example of how much they can affect the feel of what is essentially a simple little map. It also hits the mark for what Microsoft wanted done with Halo's competitive multiplayer, which was to make it more entertaining for spectators.

I think Torque is one of many good examples in Halo 5, of how not to design aesthetics. Here you had an amazing looking map but unfortunately all of the amazing was up and away from the map. That's cool and all, but if everything you look directly at looks the same as every other map, then really how much will players care after 5 minutes. Mercy has most of it's awesome right down there at eye level, and from what I've seen, it looks to do a good job at helping people understand where they are on the map.

The biggest difference between aesthetics and gameplay is that good gameplay can get by without good aesthetics but the opposite isn't true.

I did however notice this stupid tradition of color coding one side blue and one side red.
Please stop doing this 343. It only ruins your artistic vision for the map, and destroys my immersion level.
otherwise the map looks beautiful. It's Haven... but it's beautiful.