The Truth About PaperCraft

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  1. SecretSchnitzel

    SecretSchnitzel Donald Trump
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    Well, y'all, this one was a long time coming. In light of recent events, I felt it was time I shed some light on Agent Paper Craft. It's a bit of a long one, with tons of dirt. Get ready, because here we go!

    Agent Paper Craft…. What is there to say about this guy? This may come off as unprofessional given my history with the guy, but if professional conduct was something that actually mattered, APC would have been ousted from the Cartographers for good ages ago. So let’s go ahead and get this out of the way first and foremost, this tread was written under the premise to expose APC for who he truly is, show how unqualified he is to be a Cartographer, and to call for his immediate removal from the map selection process.

    Let’s get my dirty laundry bit out of the way first. My interactions with APC date all the way back to Reach, and anyone that knows me from back then (or even today), know I have a very abrasive personality. Back then I was especially abrasive and hard to get along with, and me and APC had plenty of back and forth discussions between the two of us about philosophical differences regarding level design. He favored maps that had blatant exploits for Match Making, I believed that exploits of any nature ruin the multiplayer experience for all players regardless of if they’re serious competitive players or casual players, as you will have mixed lobbies of these two types on a regular basis in Match Making.

    Well, things got heated between us, and APC saw it fit to go to Laskan and complain that my behavior in the community warranted my map Select to be removed from MM, and that I be blacklisted from having any additional maps added for the foreseeable future. Well, as I said previously, I wasn’t a very good person back then. I was fresh out of the Marines, struggling with substance abuse and finding my way in a civilian world that I struggled to understand. I had made an ass of myself on many occasions, and I was also very open about my struggles with substance abuse. Laskan saw this and agreed with APC, that personal conduct should be something that warrants whether or not an individual should have a map in MM, regardless of its quality. I was consequentially blacklisted for the next two years.

    “As far as I'm concerned he has my eternal down vote because of a personal attack on my character.” -[10/9/13] Alex Good (AgentPaperCraft)

    That whole event came about because APC was an excessively petty and vindictive person. He did not like me, so he went out of his way to see that I was punished in some form or another. And that is the core reason why he does not belong in the Cartographers; he lacks a professional temperament. This is a kid on an ego trip, that doesn’t actually care about the community or the content it creates, but how important he is to the community. He wants to be worshipped essentially.

    “He told us the reason why he's a Cartographer is to get connections and build a name for himself out of personal gain. I was shocked to hear that. Shouldn't people want to be a CC to put great content into a game they love?” – Paints [1/31/14]

    His conduct within the Cartographers even got so bad that his own friend and ally within the group had the following to say about his character.

    “APC is a hothead, that's the problem. I like the guy a lot as a person, but I'm beginning to see that he's just not good at the social aspect of being a CC.” – Alzarahn [1/31/14]

    Back in Halo Reach, he got removed from the Cartographers for the first time because he threatened to blacklist two other individuals because they didn’t agree with his design philosophy. Fortunately, they reported him to an employee at Bungie they knew, and he was tossed out as he rightfully deserved.

    “Hahka will never have anything approved by me. All his maps are one trick shows, which usually involve holding one key position. Personally I hate maps that the singular goal is holding the top middle, especially if it's a bridge map” - [10/9/13] Alex Good (AgentPaperCraft)

    Here in Halo 5, APC has been quoted saying (by his friend Executioner) that “I’m only supporting Stigma and Twice Forsaken for MM because I want to rub it in their face that their maps wouldn’t have on in without me”. That’s pretty hard to believe, I know, but that is literally how petty this individual is. He has, on more than one occasion, told forgers that if they don’t make changes he suggested, they’re maps won’t go further in MM consideration. He talks down to forgers as if he’s an authority on the decision, and has a history of interjecting his own opinions into the feedback from 343i that he’s instructed to relay.

    Most recently APC and I came into conflict again, this time with my map Twice Forsaken. Prior to this conflict, he was a vocal proponent of the map and often praised it in lobbies (which we know was false praise given his real reason for supporting it). When it came time for 343i to have a Cartographer relay feedback to me about the map, he jumped at the chance, something that Nokyard stated “he felt would end poorly” because of our past history. Why would someone, who has deep character flaws, want to relay feedback from 343i to a forger he has never gotten along with? One can only assume, knowing him, that it was for the satisfaction of telling someone he didn’t like what to do. He wanted the power trip. Well, he relays some short feedback to me, and I respond that I had already been told by Unyshek the same thing and had already done the main concerns I agreed with. He then insisted that I make these other changes that I had deemed trivial, to which I told him I’m too busy with my startup (I recently launched a Payment Card Processing Company with a few colleagues I worked with in the past), and I had surmised that the trivial changes where bits that APC had interjected as they were not part of what Unyshek had told me a few days prior. Suspecting this, I told APC that “if these trivial changes prevent the map from going into MM, then whoever is making that decision can eat a ****”. Was that called for on my part? Absolutely not and now I fear I ruined my chances with APC again.

    “I don't give a flying crap if he produces dev quality maps out of forge somehow, I'm not going to assist him in being successful when he can't treat people any better than they way he acts.” - [11/2/13] Alex Good (AgentPaperCraft)

    Earlier I had mentioned how APC doesn’t care about the community or selecting quality maps. His has been absent from the community over the years (disregarding the two periods of time he was removed from the Cartographers). Where was he at the end of Halo 4? Where was he in H2A? Where was he in Halo 5 prior to the ForgeGate debacle? He hadn’t interacted with the community at all over the spans of time, and only reared his head during ForgeGate out of fear that members of the Cartographer would be cut from the group. He was worried about losing his title and sense of self-importance to the community. Meanwhile, awesome members such as Nokyard, PsychoDuck, Ducain, and Warholic had stuck through all the games, continued to interact with the forge community and push for their creations to be added into MM despite 343’s insistence not to. These guys stood by us through thick and thin, but somehow they’re having trouble communicating with 343 while APC has cozied up to Unyshek and seems to have access to all the information he wants? Come on now! Doesn’t that seem wrong to you? Or maybe APC doesn’t have this direct line of communication with 343 that he leads forgers on to believing? The latter be the case; can we really stand behind someone that would boldly lie to forgers in order to make himself seem more important?

    I can only say so much on this subject because I’m limited almost exclusively to my personal knowledge of the individuals conduct in the past. It is my personal belief that APC has no business being a Cartographer or involved in the map selection process for MM, but what do you think? Is there more to the story than what I’ve said? Do you have some dirt to offer up on the individual that I haven’t yet disclosed?

    Please, share anything you have to add to this and discusss.
     
  2. Goat

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    If you are only interested in a community position for the status or perks and not for truly serving the community, you do not deserve to be in that position.

    Period.
     
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  3. Doju

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    Keeping an eye on this. This thread, and this last paragraph alone is borderline witch hunting.

    The majority of this seems to be occurring over 2 years ago, and quotes from 2013.
     
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    If is right.

    If there are OTHERS who have been affected, THEN yes, consider removal. The big word here is IF

    It has been observed that this community is filled with talent, but that also comes in many cases with some observable personality quirks and dysfunctions. It's to be expected with us creative types, but it's also expected to grow up, put your big girl panties on, and get on with the business of either doing what you do best, or, helping others.

    The last damn thing this community needs is a child with their **** in their hand in charge of handing maps to 343 in the hopes of getting their creations into matchmaking.

    It will have the opposite effect: 343 being a business and all, will get sick REAL QUICK of drama and will find a way to cut off not only special access apparently being given to forgehub, but may impact the use of Forge as a feature at ALL for future iterations of Halo.

    To all, et all: don't be the dumbass who poops in the place you sleep and play, your sandbox will be removed.

    With Love,
    Your Mom,
    AnonomissX
     
  5. Forge Peasant

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    So much of this statement is nonsense lol. I was blacklisted from Duck and Squally's lobbies since the end of H4.

    I've yet to see Paper have serious conflict with anyone but yourself Schnitzel. Your taking everything said by APC way to personal.

    If you two can't get along that's fine. That doesn't mean he's not professional? From the time I met Paper he's continusly helped forgers out which is why we're friends today.

    Paper just doesn't play with isolated forgers who are egotistic scrubs like some people I know lol.

    What I'm getting at is I've been playing with Paper for a long time and it's pretty obvious to mean that this community means something to him or else all of these forge creations we've tested over the years wouldn't have happened lol.

    GG bks
     
  6. SecretSchnitzel

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    It's pretty clear, especially considering his quotes, that he doesn't care about the community, but only himself. He's a CC to try and build relationships with developers to ultimately help him get into the industry. He doesn't care about quality. He sure as hell doesn't understand what quality is. All that matters to him is getting his name out there.
     
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    But you care about the community lol? You practically told Unyshek to eat a **** do to the feedback that was given to you from an entire party of forgers lol. Then said you were better then all of and said your creating something better then any of us could ever imagine lol. IMAGINE. Lol.
     
  8. SecretSchnitzel

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    Oh, that's the story is it? Fact of the matter is, Uny messaged me with changes to make, which I did. APC then messaged me with his interjected nitpicks, and I told him to eat a ****. Why? Because he's a tool that has a tendency to interject his opinions into feedback and gets off bossing other forgers around. The kid is on a power trip. And yes, while it was wrong of me to rub in his face that I'm more concerned with my real life work. the truth of the matter is, I am more concerned with that.

    You should really get your facts straight instead of fanboying and repeating the garbage that APC tell yous.
     
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    No story lol. That's just how you seem to come off a lot Schnitzel. A know it all type lol. Call me a fanboy lol? You personally messages me to give you attention on this post lol? I'd call you the fanboy if anything. Now get back to work on that million dollar Corp. lol
     
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  10. a Chunk

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    Assuming what you've posted is accurate... Yeah, a CC completely preventing someone from getting content into matchmaking is pretty shitty, and not the sort of approach that should be allowed.

    On the other hand, we're all human beings. If you communicate with someone in that position in the way you described, knowing full well that they have some say in what goes into matchmaking, then it's hard for me to have much sympathy. You're both in the wrong.
     
  11. THE SLAMMERSS

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    I'm triggered that this discussion is in the forge category, can you please take your issues to the off topic discussion area.
    I'm assuming you only put it in the Forge discussion knowing that people would look at it more.
    Sincerely a disgusted forger, whos sick of hearing this ****.
     
  12. SecretSchnitzel

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    I make no effort to hide my wrongdoing, I am well aware of just how in the wrong I've been with my conduct in the past. It's not an excuse. But hey, I'm not the one in a position of power. My wrongs only reflect poorly on me. APC's wrongs, however, reflect poorly on this institution in place.
     
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    The issue revolves around a forge map and a community forge representative.
    Off topic implies this is irrellivant to anything. I believe it belongs here.
     
  14. THE SLAMMERSS

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    You crafty bastard ;) alright you win...this time
     
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    I've only been playing with Papercraft for a little while, but I've never had a negative experience with him. Sure I might not always agree with him, but as far as I've seen he doesn't take things personally. This article really surprises me, and I'll be taking it with a grain of salt.
     
  16. SecretSchnitzel

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    Right now the big concern is that there isn't a clear or reliable line of communication between the Cartographers and 343, namely that the channel of communications is predominantly one-way, and 343 doesn't communicate back. When they do, it's through Unyshek, who for some reason favors APC as his primary Cartographer to speak to. At the very least, given APC's past conduct, he shouldn't be the primary contact in the Cartographers. Rather, someone such as Warholic or Nokyard should be in that role.

    The second concern is that there isn't a process for the removal of a Cartographer from the group. Unfortunately the only way to raise issues with any of the Cartographers is to make a big stink about it in the forums and hope it comes to 343's attention. There should be a way to keep Cartographers in line, to ensure that they are behaving as expected of an individual in their position, and that they're working to better the community by providing 343 with quality maps (regardless of personal influence) to choose from for Match Making consideration in the future.

    The underlying issue is that no Cartographer should be in it explicitly for themselves, and that no one should be taking advantage of their position to interject their personal opinions and coerce forgers to change their maps, let alone bully forgers around. Forgers shouldn't feel that they have to kiss up to various Cartographers just so they can have a chance at getting a map considered. To put it bluntly, such a situation is flat out wrong.
     
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    Butthurt because your map didn't get into match-making.... Multi 2.0
     
  18. SecretSchnitzel

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    Can we abstain from trolly non-productive posts like this please? Much appreciated.
     
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  19. Forge Peasant

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    This entire article is a troll lol
     
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    Says the kid currently sitting in a party chat with APC **** talking everyone. Ask your buddy if he's going to man up and say something, or is he going to cry to Uny that Schnitzel was being mean again? :p
     
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