Infinity's Armory Update

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    INFINITY’S ARMORY


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    If you were to drop by for a tour, you’d find a great deal of work-in-progress goodness on screens across the studio, most of which would give you an in-development look at this month’s update, titled Infinity’s Armory. The update is scheduled to drop towards the end of the month, and it’ll include new maps, weapons, armors, weapon skins, and more. We’ll be detailing the full contents of the update over the next few weeks, including another preview livestream in approximately two weeks’ time.

    To help hold you over, here’s a preview of one of the new battlegrounds coming this month:

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    PLAYLISTS & GAME TYPES
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    Over the holiday break, the multiplayer team featured two holiday playlists: Holiday Social and Holiday Doubles. Here’s a look at how all of the playlists stacked up against each other regarding total unique users:

    Holiday Playlist Popularity
    By total unique users

    1. Warzone
    2. Slayer
    3. Team Arena
    4. SWAT
    5. Big Team Battle
    6. Holiday Social
    7. Warzone Assault
    8. Breakout
    9. Holiday Doubles
    10. Free for All
    The Multiplayer Team is continuing to review data and behavior around these playlists as we think about future iterations of playlists such as Social and Doubles, as well as brand new stuff. What types of new and classic modes can we bring to a new social playlist? What types of brand new experiences can we bring to Team Doubles to increase its popularity? These are the questions we’re asking and aiming to answer with future updates, and also the help of your feedback.

    To help shape the future of these and other playlists, we’d love to get your input on Doubles, Social, and also on weapon and Power Up layouts across all Arena maps as we take a step back and look at current map layouts and consider changes moving forward. We’ve created specific feedback threads for them here:

    In these threads, let us know what you like, what you don’t like, and your crazy ideas that might just work.

    While the Multiplayer Team work on these playlists as well as new ones (and new game types, but more on that in a moment), Team Arena will be this weekend’s featured playlist in matchmaking. We’ve also heard your thoughts and starting with this weekend, we’ve more than doubled the amount of the XP that you’ll receive for featured playlists. Additionally, our Investment Team has been digging through REQ data, and found that Team Arena has been awarding slightly below the average amount of REQ points per minute, so we’ve made an update to bring this more in line with the intended design. In short, more REQ points.

    Another item that is top of mind (for both you and us) is getting some Forge favorites into matchmaking, as well as the general surfacing of awesome Forge stuff. We’ve been working with a variety of Forge communities to identify some of the top maps out there, and building out plans with the Multiplayer Team on a few different ways that we plan to bring these into the matchmaking lineup and places like Waypoint, Twitter, live streams, and more. These playlists are in the works as we speak, and we’re looking forward to featuring the best community maps and game types, ranging from competitive maps to classic remakes to wacky and fun custom-built map and game variants. To see just a few of the maps we’re keeping an eye on, be sure to check out the Community Spotlight section below.

    Next up, game types. We know many of you are looking forward to jumping into new Halo 5 game types, and the team is hard at work on a wide variety of modes – ranging from competitive modes to Grifball to Fiesta to more. These are currently being slated into future Halo 5 updates, and although final timelines aren’t set just yet, things are going through engineering, test and polish, and we thought we’d give you a sneak peek at an old bit of game type concept art to wet your whistle:

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    Before we move on, the services team has been reviewing your feedback on matchmaking and continues to work on further improvements to matchmaking for regions around the globe, and just this week, we spotted that some of you were maxing out your Forge maps and mode saves, so the services and tests teams got to work and completed an update that allows you to save 100 map variants and 100 game variants, increased from the previous limit of 40. This update was pushed live yesterday morning, and we’d like to say thanks for the feedback. Forge on.

    COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT
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    This week, we’re shining the spotlight on more community-made Forge maps. As mentioned above, we’ve been looking for some new favorites to throw into matchmaking, and… we also just like playing your cool stuff. Let’s take a look at a few of our picks for this week.

    To download any of the below maps, just follow or send a Friend Request to the gamertags below, and view their File Share in Active Roster.

    Mongoose Sumo
    Creator: Turbtastic

    First up is an instant favorite - a Mongoose Sumo minigame by Turbtastic.

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    The rules are simple: push other players off of the board, and the last Spartan standing wins the round. Turbtastic specializes in awesome minigames, so be sure to add him for more wacky fun time.

    Kronos
    Creator: Zaelkyria

    Kronos is an original symmetrical 2v2 map. It’s Forerunner in origin, and we like it a lot.

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    Remembrance
    Creator: AnonFriction

    Remembrance is a remake of Ivory Tower from Halo 2, which just so happens to play quite a bit like the original. With Halo 5 scripting, AnonFriction was able to perfectly replicate the Ivory Tower elevator. Aww yes. [​IMG]

    Simulation
    Creators: Berserk on XBL & Lil Black Bubba

    This map is a thing of beauty. Possibly our favorite community-made Breakout map so far, Simulation is a recreation of Halo 3’s The Pit (and Halo 4’s Pitfall) and pulls from different elements of each. When you spawn, you’ll immediately recognize the fact that you’re in the attic, about to drop down on the plat. You’ll also immediately recognize the beckoning long hall, or the inviting option to head up to your tower for a better view on the enemy. Whatever you choose, we think you’ll be right at home.

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    We liked the map so much, we decided to sit down with the two creators to learn a bit more about it. Let’s go!

    Hey guys! Thanks for joining me today. We love this map. What inspired you to create a Pit-inspired map?

    Berserk: There's a few things that made me want to recreate and re-imagine The Pit. Halo 3 was the first game I ever played online, and it is easily one of the maps I had the most fun with, and was also one of the most well balanced multiplayer maps created. During the Halo 5 beta over a year ago, playing Breakout for the first time really got me thinking about how cool it would look if The Pit was made using the same palette, which was one of the main selling points for me to recreate the map. I actually wasn't sure if it would play well with Breakout and Halo 5 in general, I just wanted to make it look good, but then Bubba came along and helped turn it into what I think is a map that plays very well.

    Bubba: Awesome to hear! We believe that The Pit is one of the most iconic maps in the Halo series and proved to immerse players into a great, competitive environment. Remaking it to play well for Breakout was something Berserk was especially looking forward to. Although we knew would have to recreate it in a way that would work with Halo 5's playstyle -- being much more different than the past Halo games -- we were up for the challenge.

    As you went through the geometry and layout, were they any pieces, sightlines, etc., that were particularly tricky?

    Berserk: Honestly, the hardest part of the map for both Bubba and I was scripting the shield door that covers the entrance point of the map, both of us had limited experience scripting, so we both spent nearly two entire days making that one little piece work right. The hardest part about the layout of the map was probably the middle of the map, sword room, and making the map look and feel like the original Pit while also working for Halo 5's new mechanics. We wanted to ensure sword room wasn't able to be camped in, so we decided to put the shotgun in there, to make some combat focus there. The middle of the map was definitely trial and error. We had a general idea but had to open it up and add new sightlines so that people wouldn't camp in the hallways. We messed around with it and tested it many times to make sure it can be both a beneficial and dangerous area to be in. Scaling the map was tough. Obviously Halo 3 and 5 play completely different. With the additions of Spartan Abilities and Breakout, we had to make sure the map would look and feel like The Pit while also being playable, I would almost say this came down to luck since you can never really tell if it will work or not until it’s finished and being tested.

    Bubba: Something that I had been keeping my mind on as we were making the map was the classic "banana" between both teams' training location. Because we heavily tweaked the center of the map from the original, we were trying to find a way to block sightlines to the courtyard and the sword room. Adding in something similar to banana and changing the structure of the sword room allowed us to complete that task. One of the most challenging things we managed to do, however, was getting the energy barrier in the back of each team's nest to get in position and at the right time. Like Berserk said, neither of us had much experience with scripting, so it took us about two days to find out what we had to do to script it correctly. We were so relieved once we finally got it all sorted out.

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    I noticed there are some key differences in the layout, such as using a jump up in the OS runway. Any other things worth noting?

    Berserk: If you know the ins and outs of Halo 5's Spartan Abilities and tactics, you may notice that there is a lot of opportunity for trick jumps that can make the map have a near infinite amount of possibilities. Slide boosting can be done in key parts of the map to make a quick escape, flank, or just general movement around the map, coordinating these kinds of moves with your team can catch the enemies completely off guard. There are also the pyramid boosts that can launch you into the air to get up high quickly which can also be used to catch enemies off guard. Knowing these tricks and where to use them can easily mean the difference between a win or loss. Other than the Pyramids though, the obvious differences will be in sword room and the middle, which is to make sure the map is more open and more strategic, but above basement and shotgun may seem different as well. In order to create new sightlines, we made the tower (Nest) above basement open so it can be used as a vantage point for the base and give good angles, while also having minimal cover, making it dangerous to stay for long. We opened up shotgun to eliminate camping while also making it a useful spot to get your bearings and get some cover during a firefight.

    Bubba: There are a bunch of jumps that we implemented into our map, some of which weren't totally on purpose. Something I'd like to mention is the walls sticking out of long hall that you can jump off of to potentially be more unpredictable. Unyshek actually came up with the idea of adding it, and, unsurprisingly, it ended up fitting in perfectly with the playstyle we were aiming for. You'll also find some pyramids scattered around in the courtyard and pit that you could use to your advantage by performing what I know as a "thrusting kneecap," which can launch you a good amount of height to several locations if correctly timed. Along with these launches, there are plenty of other spots that allow you to execute slide boosts, which, when given the opportunity, can really throw off your opponents. The last thing I want to make note of is the fact that we took out the small lights outside of the sword room, but we replaced them with small ledges you can get on right above the doorways on the ramps.

    Before we close, any tips that you might have for players who are about to download and play the map?

    Berserk: Learning how to do the aforementioned tricks is nearly a must if you want to win, knowing them can give you an advantage if you know how to use them right. And, as always, coordinating with the team is as important as ever. With the power weapons being on opposite sides of the map, and control being based around who gets one or both of them, teams are really going to need to utilize cover fire and strategy to keep the other team at bay.

    Bubba: For players who haven't played on this map yet, I would recommend playing more cautiously than the other Breakout maps they're used to. I, personally, feel like this map plays a bit more differently than what you may expect in a typical Breakout map. Many of the other Breakout maps seem to have a narrower layout and, thus, players tend to feel less risk when pushing up to the middle. To me, Simulation feels a little wider, which may affect players' awareness. Another big thing to keep in mind is how to position yourself with your team. Having a well-positioned team helps ensure good teamwork, as long as your teammates know what you're doing and you know what they're doing.

    Thanks for joining me today!

    Berserk: Thanks for having us and checking out the map, I hope everyone enjoys playing it as much as Bubba and I enjoyed creating it!

    source: halowaypoint
     
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Discussion in 'Articles' started by WAR, Jan 10, 2016.

    1. Zombievillan
      Zombievillan
      "We wanted to ensure sword room wasn't able to be camped in, so we decided to put the shotgun in there..."

      That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard, lol. Other than that it looks cool though haha.
      MultiLockOn and WAR like this.
    2. Reiku78
      Reiku78
      So next month or even longer until we get new gametypes? Or has 343 just sworn them off to support the competitive community?
    3. ukilledkenny7
      ukilledkenny7
      They acted like they'd have an update every month for the first 6 months. But now it's an update every month and a half it seems. I kind of get it, but sucks that they're spending so much time and talk about their new location which really mostly only matters to them and seems like something that could happen during more down time and not soon after a game's launch :p
      I kind of just wish they'd put more of the great forge maps into matchmaking and I would stop my complaining :)
      MultiLockOn and Wally12 like this.
    4. xxBRYTExx
      xxBRYTExx
      I tried to respond to this 3 times now but every time it has come out as a rant. So im just gonna say 343 im incredibly dissappointed
      MultiLockOn and Reiku78 like this.
    5. Reiku78
      Reiku78
      Rant about it please! We got forge (which I barely even use cause the controls make no freaking sense) I would love to play MP learn to forge again but 343 just thinks we care about the HCS...
    6. ChieftaiNZ
      ChieftaiNZ
      To be fair, we don't actually know the full contents of the update.
      Until we see a confirmed list of everything, I'm not going to make judgement.
    7. xxBRYTExx
      xxBRYTExx
      Id rather they fixed the game they already have instead of adding more things that are sure to be filled with more bugs. The campaign is the only part of halo 5 where I havent been constantly fighting with bugs. and Im sure thats because I only did one playthrough. And some of the bugs arent even really bugs. like the origin point of some forge pieces being in the incorrect position, or some of the forge pieces being labeled the wrong sizes, ect.

      I would like to know from a programmer how difficult it is to add a gametype (like oddball). because if it isnt very hard then please 343 please just put all the halo gametypes on a weekly rotation. dont just add them in over months or you are just going to piss off the halo community ( i dont want to wait a year for the basic halo gametypes). Unless adding in gametypes is super difficult 343 has no excuses.
    8. FrostPhoenix0
      FrostPhoenix0
      So, I feel like everybody here had difficulty with the controls of Forge, at first. But I, and likely many others here, believe the changes have actually made the map building process SO MUCH SMOOTHER. The controls actually work very well, they are just unlike the previous iterations of Forge.
    9. ChieftaiNZ
      ChieftaiNZ
      It's new so I hate it. -Halo Community
    10. Doju
      Doju
      Eurgh, no

      If you have control ingrained to your muscle memory for 5/6 years, then of course its going to get negative feedback at first due to having to re-wire your brain.
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    11. FrostPhoenix0
      FrostPhoenix0
      Isn't that kind of a shame, though? And tbh, you kind of just reiterated what he just said; that a new control scheme is getting flak because it's not the old control scheme. If somebody doesn't like the new controls after sufficient testing and learning, then fine. But attacking the controls for something like this because somebody has to re-wire their brain to master it is unhelpful at best. It's just not as meaningful to gripe about something without learning about said thing first.
    12. Doju
      Doju
      But it not getting flak, pretty much everyone has got used to and enjoys it. Its certainly not getting "attacked" anymore. This was the the case after a week. Of course people will make a big deal at first when they cant do the simplest of tasks.

      You're making way too big of a deal out of nothing and "attacking" the forge community when they adapted to a rather big change pretty seamlessly. Nobody who forgers semi regularly has anythign bad to say about the controls, thats the literal opposite of "I hate it because its new"
    13. FrostPhoenix0
      FrostPhoenix0
      Oh I only mention it now because the guy above mentioned it. I don't know, it's probably the culmination of several years of negativity building up in many facets of the Halo community (for both good and bad reasons). You're right though, I am making a big deal, sorry. I'm not meaning to attack anybody.
    14. xxBRYTExx
      xxBRYTExx
      Personally I love the new control scheme. I have a habit of forgetting to deselect pieces but that my own doing. Only thing I would change about the forge controls is I would like to be able to move a piece without moving my forge dude. If there is a way to do that and I just missed it someone help me out.
    15. Preacher001
      Preacher001
      Yah yah yah whatever, what about bug fixes and additional content in Forge. Lights, textures (weathered/ancient and metallic) for starters, water falls, water pools, the ability to go under water, and by the looks of things, a sand canvas.

      I'm not asking for it all at once or right away, but how about, "hey there is a bug patching coming in the next couple weeks and a new Forge package to arrive soonish in the future" kind of news.
    16. ReclaimerX22
      ReclaimerX22
      You should keep an eye on Tom French's twitter page. It seems to be much more informative than any if 343's official community updates. Plus he just seems like a really chill dude. Lol
      WAR likes this.
    17. Merder Smerf
      Merder Smerf
      I've been playing halo since CE but have literally never even launched forge until halo 5. I've found the controls to be easy and intuitive. It took me all of 5 minutes to figure out how to create blocks and move them around. So I'm saying this not to flame on the people who are essentially having to learn a new program, but to assure you that the controls are smooth and if you give yourself some time to adjust I'm sure you will like them.

      It's worth mentioning aloud that every available function on the controller is listed on the left of the screen and that list changes if you do something like hold down one of the triggers. Thats how I learned all the commands.
      xxBRYTExx likes this.

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