ok, basically i have found out that if you make something spawn at 3 minutes in and you save, end, and start it up again it will come back and you wont be able to move it in forge mode, but if you start a new round it will be gone, has anyone else had this problem?
well you have to think of forge not as a custom game, with not just the wya you play but the surroundings, they can be diferent, example: some switches: such as sliding door and vending maachnies ussualy only work in custom games, back to this subject just start a new round
Wow unhelpful replies ahoy. Glitchditch its not weird and the 30 seconds is irrelevant, you have set the object to not spawn at start. The reason the object appears when you open forge is that when you first start a forge session it will always spawn all objects. That includes object set to not spawn at start, they will appear but you can't pick them up. Presumably it does this so stupid people don't load their maps and think a bunch of stuff is missing. When you start a new round forge no longer forces everything to appear so the object set not to respawn will not appear. Wait the 30 seconds respawn time (or whatever you set it to) and it will appear, then you can set it to spawn at start, move it and continue building.
Mallet, that's not always true. On complex forged maps when something is set not to spawn at start, sometimes it doesn't appear until you round it. I've noticed this when I've placed all of the double walls, the ones I tell not to spawn at start won't appear until their respawn times.
When you set something not to spawn on start, when you start a new game, it'll sometimes wanna appear on the first round, even though you set it not to. You won't be able to move it because it's not really there, so you can't grab it. However, it's there, so you can touch it. Interesting stuff, neh? If you want it to appear later, force spawn it by min/maxing it.
Some objects appear and some dont. Its got something to do with wether or not the objects are interlocked with other objects. Also when some objects dont appear at the first round, if you change the maximum to the highest, only a few come back, leaving some blank until you start new round.