So which one of you are going to get this job? GO GO GO!!!

• 5+ years of experience with multiple shipped AAA console products
• 3+ years as a map or mission lead for shipped AAA multiplayer games

As fantastic as the community is, I don't know if anyone here meets these qualifications.

THIS^^^ As much as my quals are, I am better off trying to become their Net/Sys Admin.

If you never try, then you will never get it. Apply and keep improving. They didn't say professional experience. Do work in CS:GO, Halo, Unreal, etc. Also repeat applications helps them remember you. Helps them see how you grow. Trust me. Go for it before you dismiss it. Success is directly proportional to the amount of awkward situations you put yourself in. This is one of those. Get yourself out there. It is better to try. You may even get lucky and they'll contact you and give you hints to what you are missing. Anything is better than not trying.

So 343 is looking for somebody to forgehub forge?

Godly's got a point^ I've seen more impossible things occur

I'm not saying no one should try, but applying to a job that you do not even come close to meeting the requirements for is a bit ridiculous. Judging by the fact that they are looking for someone who has shipped multiple AAA titles, I think professional experience is exactly what they want.

If this is the kind of job you are looking for but you have not worked on a AAA game, then this is a good long term goal, but not one to just apply and hope for. Look at the skills required and work to develop those skills. Start in a lower position, maybe as a tester or in QA. Make connections, develop your skill set, and prove that you are reliable, and then you become the person they are looking for.

how many times had you applied for 343i and CA again?

definitely no harm in trying but i think its fairly clear that people with a lot of prior experience in the industry has a much better chance. IMO the best bet for people outside the industry would be to get into the modding community and build up a portfolio.

Complete opposite. Typically companies keep track of those that applied and those that have potential based on profile and previous experience and they will watch how you progress. And when entry level positions open up they tend to reach into those files and contact people interested. Those requirements aren't hard and fast. Most will take equivalents. For example, mod experience, indie development experience, mixed in with commercial design experience, etc. Otherwise they couldn't grab from other industries. Also putting in applications is actually part of making connections and getting your foot in the door. You can prove you're reliable outside of the game industry. You can prove your capabilities through community involvement.

The requirements are put into place are the things that get the people they want. But what they are really looking for is a combination of characteristics that those requirements equate to. If you can figure out that combination of characteristics you can pitch yourself to cover those characteristics without needing to meet the actual requirements.

Passion, initiative, and team skills are typically enough to get people in the door. Most companies nowadays will take on lesser skilled people if they have those traits because those people can be nurtured into exactly what they need. Community has passion, and when you make maps for matchmaking you end up working on your content in a similar way to actual dev teams. If you can prove prior experience with the entire pipeline and can mix that with professional experience in a team environment you can definitely fit the role.

And @A Haunted Army , I've only applied once to 343 and it was for a Producer role which I'm pretty sure I was beaten out by Bravo who got the job a bit after I applied. lol... which makes total sense and I'm not complaining. Also I had no job at the time and hadn't had a job for several years. Now I'm a lead application engineer for a fortune 100 and making 6 digits. That was 2-3 years ago. Never applied to CA. If I wanted a job there now I could probably work into a Software Engineer role with my experience now. But my target is no longer Seattle, I'm directing myself towards Silicon Valley next.

I've found that a lot of people stop gap themselves thinking that they don't have the experience. And then it is the people who have less experience than them that get the jobs because they were more proactive. There is no harm in applying to a good company. And if the companies puts you down for your passion, then maybe that's not the right company for you to begin with. When you try to get an interview you should also be interviewing the company that you will be working for. Halo thrives off of community involvement and 343 recognizes that which is why Jessica, Andy, Tashi, and many pro players have been hired on. Jessica was a blogger, Andy was a pro player/social medias guy. Rukari, another good name big in the forums. I've met most of these people from my trip to 343 as a Cartographer before Halo 4 came out and I guarantee a ton of individuals who were major community members didn't meet the exact requirements for their positions.

You make some good points GP. Your original post seemed to me to be insinuating that people could apply at their current skill level and expect they might be hired. I suppose it would not be a bad idea to apply if this is a job you would be interested in, regardless of skill level, but I would warn people to not get their expectations up that they have much chance of being hired now if they don't have a lot of experience. This is for getting hired much latter on.

@godly (I can't believe you still use this name...): I understand, and agree with your overall point, but I don't see why mentioning your pay was necessary. Modesty, man.

I'm just another person who doesn't fit these qualifications, but even if I did, art is the opposite of where my passion in map design lies.

I went the mechanical route. So I could build them a robot. lasers optional. but everybody loves lasers.

I feel like who gets hired for this job hardly matters, they simply need a consultant that actually forges to execute it correctly. From a forgers perspective alpine could be much better, not that it's bad but this is why a forger with non-AAA experience would be better than just any environmental artist with skill.

@GodlyPerfection, oh i might be confusing you with agentpapercraft. can't really argue with that advice when i have no experience myself and it looks pretty solid to me.

I think everyone is focusing on the wrong thing. What really matters is:

!!343 INDUSTRIES IS LOOKING FOR A FORGE ENVIRONMENT ARTIST!!

Who will -

• Have exceptional artistic skills in creating materials and texture maps for our worlds
• Work closely with Design to create Forge assets that are highly playable, performant and visually attractive
• Manage a small team of artist in the creation and maintenance of hundreds of assets
• Constantly improve and advocate for best in class content creation and production practices
• Collaborate across discipline peers to build the best multiplayer experience possible

Sounds like the new Forge is going to be the type of awesome that just keeps getting better!!!

We've been saying this for almost two months. The maps you see tomorrow are just the tip of the Ice Mountain Terrain piece.

So BTB tomorrow? (Half Life 3 confirmed?)

If that mountain has glass, we're all fu**ed.

Probably the most important question about forged asked thus far: Can I still force a grid into natural geometry and wait 2 minutes for the host to finally get to the menu option to end the game?