...Yes, I'm being self centered in keeping a more open mind to a broader set of features that allow more people to use the device than for just what I'd personally use it for. That's the definition of self centered I think. I do think the price is a fair point to make but its one that made in absence of full detail. We don't know what the price will be or if there will be alternate versions so one can't just assume it will be expensive or that they'd have to get a device that has more features than they'd use. ERICO I can get an HD camera in a smartphone for 1 dollar nowadays I doubt that would impact the price in any serious way and Blu-ray HAD to happen for games to fit on one disk so there's no complaining about an unnecessary add-on there.
Pac, if the kinect 1 was sold for £100, we can safely assume that a better, updated (and thus more expensive) version (plus dev costs) would raise the price more than £1. Think more £50 or £60, minimum. Sometimes you are so ignorant when you try and defend yourself. Why not admit you went overboard with your statement?
To me, they are almost the same. None of both has big advantages over the other.. Halo will be the only thing that stands between my choice for the PS4 (Simply because all my friends will probally get the PS4) Did they say that the Kinect is included with the Xbox One, you buy the full-package? (Not trying to be sarcastic or something, I just didn't pick that up if that's the case)
Halo is the only thing Xbox ever had. Halo: CE was the only reason the original Xbox was so successful. All the other games sucked hard. PS2 had so many better games but Halo was the first game of the new generation of shooters. Halo 5 will probably not have nearly the same effect as Halo CE.
True. Hell, Halo was the main reason I bought a Xbox. Still is really, that's why Halo is the only thing standing in between. Will Halo 5 be so incredible?
The first kinect was also the first of its kind and hardware components become cheaper over time. And you also basically ignored my entire, "it's an argument made in absense of full details" sentence. See the benefit of not having a stick planted firmly up my ass every time news of some new hardware or game comes along is it allows me to enjoy the news for what it is and not hate it for everything not said. More details will come in time, and we'll revisit these points again. The console could very well be massively expensive and I'd be right there with you, flipping MS the bird, but until then chill out and discuss the merits of what we do know so far. Also, for the record, I believe your post wins the award for worst use of the word "overboard" ever.
Sorry Pac, it's a bit of a British mannerism. To go overboard with an idea, is to go over the top, is to over-emphasize, put excessive stress or exaggerate a concept, typically one with the sense of trying to insert one's mouse up their arse in an attempt to win a nobel peace prize for shutting the hell up. I don't dig at you for Americanisms, please do me the same. (without going into a debate about who invented the English language and therefore who's mannerisms are more linguistically acceptable) And besides which, although it was a new concept, the products used were all very much mainstream. I doubt modernisation would cause the price of trending technology down by one hundred times. And as for a couple pages back, SP, the kinect is being bundled with the console. And I don't care for IGN's crap. It's all made up and hugely facetious.
Its all I asked. And have searched for. The only thing that IGN does in that link is show what we do know, and what we don't know. (Duh) They can't **** that up, they didn't. As for the rest, well, you discuss that with Pac. I just hope for now this won't result in another thread being locked down, for so many reasons.
And that applies to exactly what in my response? Just because you disagree with the idea that others might want to buy a device that does more than 1 thing doesn't mean I'm going "overboard" with anything. (and fyi, the end of that sentence contradicts the start of it) I don't know what that means in relation to what I said. I'll use a different example here. Google Glass, Google's prototype wearable tech was sold to developers/journalists for $1500. When it comes out for consumers it will cost significantly less. The technology in the consumer version will probably be better and the device will be all around better, so why would it be less money? Because the expensive one was proof of concept. The kinect was a proof of concept of motion tech for the xbox. Would the new system cost any more without it included? Who knows. Microsoft also sold the original xbox at a deficit (it took more money to make it than they were making per unit selling it) so it's not unheard of for Microsoft to absorb some of the cost to better get their products out there. I extremely doubt it would be the same $150 just tacked onto the price of the console. You also have to take into account the Kinect came out at a time when sales for the normal 360 were starting to dip down and Microsoft needed another cash flow before their new console hit. Anyway, this article makes me extreme sad face http://www.joystiq.com/2013/05/22/don-mattrick-if-youre-backwards-compatible-youre-really-bac/ I hope Don Mattrick is getting a lot of feedback about that, I know I'm certainly trying to send him emails. Hitting that dude's twitter hard right now.
Honestly IGN can be just as bad as Kotaku (and its sister sites) when it comes to gaming "news." Most of it is sensationalist anyways in an effort to demonize somebody or something.
So, does anybody want to speculate some of the new games that are gonna be coming out as exclusives? I've been thinking a new Rare title and a new Fable title but I can't think of anything else because Halo and GoW feels like they were just released. Here's a list of exclusives for the 360: Category:Xbox 360-only games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and for the PS3 if you're interested in that: CategorylayStation 3-only games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
8 new IPs so I have no clue really. Hopefully E3 will shed more light on that stuff. This is the problem with doing the reveal just before a major event E3. They were always going to have to split the information but because they told us specs now their E3 conference will have pop to it and they're reveal seemed lacking in information because they know they can say more later. I'm still pretty pissed at the backwards compatibility thing. I understand the architecture changed and supporting a legacy system would have been tricky and potentially more expensive (if they have to put emulator hardware in the console) but at the same time, that's 7 years of games pissed down the drain. What further baffles me is it isn't just the physical discs. The One will not allow any 360 digital game content. No arcade games, games on demand, none of it. I don't understand from a tech standpoint why they can't support digital games. Unless some miracle happens and hundreds of developers that were bound and gagged until now speak up about all their Xbox One projects the environment is going to go from hundreds of quality games to like 2 (assuming there are even 2 quality launch titles and that's not a guarantee). I'm also not liking what I'm hearing about the used game capability. From the articles I've read, The Xbox One will support used games but every executive that's talked about that keeps dancing around the question. They are on record saying games install when you put the disc in (which is convenient, I'll grant them that, I always thought installing a game to the harddrive should do that and not just make it slightly faster) and then sync to your gamertag. And then talk of a fee for giving that disc to someone else is essentially where the used game concern comes from. I mean technically paying a fee is still "supporting" a used game so they wouldn't be lying by saying it but that's a **** move if that's true. I buy all my games used or after such time that the new game has dropped in price significantly. I make rare exceptions (halo 4...though I'm deeply regretting getting the lame ass legendary edition or whatever it was called). If I have to jump through hoops to get cheaper games I'm going to be deeply disappointed.
Generic Military Shooter: Subtitle, Kinect Minigame-game, Action platformer that looks like a pixar movie, maybe a rpg. All of them will be mediocre or incredibly gimmicky, I know that for a fact. But seriously. I dont think I could NOT want this console any more than I do right now. ****, the Wii U is more appealing to me right now, and it is a steaming pile of electronic ****. My opinion of it is so low, I dont even care if they dont do any of this stuff were mad about, Im still not getting it. /Boycott initiated
Killer Instinct would be so amazing. And i dont understand why some people have to try so hard to be negative. I dont really see much of a problem with anything revealed, other than maybe integrated kinect that has to be on for the console to work, but even then whatever, far from a deal breaker. It was a console reveal, it makes sense that they would save showing off the games until e3 and just focus on what else the console itself does.