2v2 Concept

This map looks wonderful, Its hard to believe it doesn't play well for 2v2... I can only imagine it would be a great 1v1 map then? Anyway I'm impressed by the design! You've clearly spent a lot of time into this, design-wise and forge time.

I am curious though what are you sitting at for budget or items?

 

Invite me to forge/test this, if you like. The map looks great, and I dont get any sort of 'cramped' feeling at all.

 

5/10 no pencil sharpener

jk

Seems like those highest areas could do with some slight lowering (messing with the elevations could remove the need for the ramp up / down) and those 1 wide areas could do with some widening. Other than that, please swap that gravity hammer out. Perhaps a railgun or OS?

 

i personaly love this map im pretty sure i would be killin it on this map, for FFA, hell id play 4v4 on this map. the more action there is in the game the better. i personally love close encounters with epic BR battles, or dropping that perfect nade and taking out there team like its swat. man i love small maps!

By the Way i love the Video quality where did you learn to do that

 

I actually really like this, it reminds me of halo 3's original forge, structurally. The design leads me to believe that it would play just fine for 2v2, sprint may make it questionable but it shouldn't be too bad.

 

your maps get better and better Dax

 

Feels camped? I highly doubt that. If anything, it looks way too open. I can't see a 2v2 playing well on this at all- more like a 4v4. That's just from looking at it, though.

I do agree with Spin when he said that the highest parts of the map need a bit of lowering. There's a lack of proper structure in some parts of the map, but I doubt it's anything too big.

I love the design, but I think it's way too complex, and needs to be cut down quite a bit in order for the map to play what you intend it for.

I wouldn't mind getting a game on this sometime. It does look quite interesting.

 

finally something that inspired me.... The feel and look reminds me of my old quake days.

As others have stated 4v4 looks possible.

 

Very nice - the layout resembles a cool 2v2 map I played with Spin a week or two ago.

I have to agree with the height of the upper walkways. They seemed to tower above you when you were on the lower levels, offering far too much of a height advantage to the people above as they can basically only see your head. I'm worried about the width of the upper walkways, too. As they're so high, would it be possible to crouch and take cover from people shooting up at you?

I suggest lowering the high walkways and keeping their current width, or keeping their current height and decreasing their width.

I agree with Eightball on the whole 'cramped' thing. It looks about the perfect size, if not a little too big, for strategic engagements from a variety of distances. Of course, playtests will provide the answer.

Overall, I'm a big fan of the height variation throughout, and I like how you're focusing play on the lower levels by adding power weapons down there - although I do agree with Spin and think you should swap out the Gravity Hammer for something that would prove more useful in fights on the walkways. I don't think the hammer offers enough incentive for players to give up their height advantage and move right into the centre of the map.

Alternatively, you could always place the hammer at the highest, centre point of the map - it'd make for some interesting gameplay if you could strike with a death blow from above.

I'm free throughout the weekend, so message me if you ever want some playtests done - I'm looking forward to seeing this finished!

EDIT: Just seen your latest post. You make sense - could you not change the position of some pathways so they don't lie one on top of the other? When I saw your walkthrough, I thought that you could maybe swap out the high paths for man-cannons to the centre - it'd allow players on the bottom level to hug the wall on the side of their opponent, meaning their opponent cannot see them and will have to drop down to fight... Make sense? I've no idea what this would do to gameplay, though.

 

DAX Where do I submit these 2v2 maps for MM? Link?

 

I remember this from the sketch thread many moons ago. It turned out much larger than I thought it would. Beyond what everybody else said, it looks like you had to rely on unstructural cover in some positions; hightly elevated positions at that. With where they're at, it doesn't look like much can be done about it, but they don't seem like they'd be a problem here anyway.

Let's play some games this weekend if you're down.

 

Any chance of you uploading this map to your fileshare for playtesting?

 

I'll most likely be able to playtest any time, as my exams are over now. Also, send me a message if you ever want my opinion on anything. I'll gladly give input.

 

You know, scale wise it's just barely too small IMO for a 4v4. 2v2 I feel would be amazing on this map. I intend to download and test it. Have you considered and outer ring? You could easily widen the smaller ramps/walkways on the ouside, and add an out ring with a little cover and some height variations. Even if only on the sides. This would stop everyone from crowding the high ground in the middle, as there would be other positions of slight power to have to worry about.

 

one thing i noticed when watching the video is that you have blown the lighting budget, at about 1.33 into the vid u can c shadow problems against the blocks when you walk up the ramp, might want to check out the guide to dynamic lighting and try to replace some of the heavy lighting pieces with lighter ones to help. just a thought because i hate it when you spent a long time making a map only to find that the lighting budget is blown by the time you get towards the end. totally ruins a map in my eyes because why have dynamic lighting if it wont work all the time? makes no sense to me, but as far as the map goes keep at it, looking good