Halo 4 Weapons, AAs, Tactical & Support Packages

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by thesilencebroken, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. RightSideTheory

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    It also apparently sprays like a shotgun (horribly inaccurate) if you don't scope in. They've tried to add a lot of negatives to this gun, like the one's you mentioned, but it's still going to be really over-powered. I wouldn't expect to see it on too many maps, or in anything really competitive.
     
  2. WhackyGordon

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    It looks like they've combined a rocket launcher and a sniper rifle. If you think of it in the context of being like a rocket launcher, it doesn't seem so powerful.

    And am I noticing a trend in the Promethean weapons? I mean, the Boltshot fires single shots, and the charge-up looks like a mini shotgun blast. The Light Rifle fires single scoped in and a shot that splits into 3 bits unscoped. The Scattershot is the Scattershot. Even that big Incinerator Cannon looks like it's firing off a flame-y equivalent of a shotgun blast after impact. I think 343 has a thing for shotguns.
     
  3. Pegasi

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    If you think of it as a hitscan rocket launcher then it suddenly becomes powerful again. The travel time of rockets is the main nerf, which doesn't apply here.
     
  4. thesilencebroken

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    These really helped me get to know the weapons and how to identify them visually.
     
  5. That Scorch Guy

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    That Binary Rifle still looks like 1 free kill per shot. I'm not even all that great with a sniper.

    I always thought the Beam Rifle was the best sniper mechanic. You could fire off 3 rounds very quickly, but it cost you overheat time afterwards, so it encouraged slower precise shots without forcing it.
     
  6. thesilencebroken

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    LOADOUT NAME: Spartan-III
    PRIMARY: Battle Rifle
    SECONDARY: Assault Rifle
    GRENADE TYPE: Frag
    ARMOR ABILITY: Promethean Vision
    TACTICAL PACKAGE: Fire-power
    SUPPORT PACKAGE: Dexterity
     
  7. Elite Warrior5

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    LOADOUT NAME: Promethian Scout
    PRIMARY: Light Rifle
    SECONDARY: Boltshot
    GRENADE TYPE: Pulse Grenade
    ARMOR ABILITY: Promethian Vision
    TACTICAL PACKAGE: AA Efficiency
    SUPPORT PACKAGE: Stability


    LOADOUT NAME: Promethian Infantry
    PRIMARY: Surpressor
    SECONDARY: Boltshot
    GRENADE TYPE: Pulse Grenade
    ARMOR ABILITY: Thruster Pack
    TACTICAL PACKAGE: Shielding
    SUPPORT PACKAGE: Dexterity
     
  8. Minion

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    the beam rifle has been confirmed, might want to add it.
     
  9. That Scorch Guy

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    Those Promethean weapons look twice as awesome after watching the ViDoc. I have a new kit to make:

    Bromethean:
    PRIMARY Light Rifle
    SECONDARY Boltshot
    AA Thruster
    TAC PAC Shielding
    SUP PAC Dexterity
     
  10. Alpine Drift v

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    Damn, so many different additions. So now we practicly have 3 AAs?
     
  11. caughtsword4

    caughtsword4 Promethean

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    8 AA's.
     
  12. Alpine Drift v

    Alpine Drift v Promethean

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    Actually 25. But I meant practiclly 3 groups of what looks like AAs.
     
  13. cluckinho

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    LOADOUT NAME: Pro
    PRIMARY: Light Rifle
    SECONDARY: Boltshot
    GRENADE TYPE: Frag
    ARMOR ABILITY: Hologram
    TACTICAL PACKAGE: AA Efficiency
    SUPPORT PACKAGE: Ammo
     
  14. zeppfloydsabbtull

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    The AR is a secondary? I think it would make sense, considering the sandbox of H4 and previous games, but when did we find that out?

    Also, Whacky Gordon seems to be right so far, every Pro weapon including the grenade, except the surpressor (I don't know if it will be precise, regardless of the speed of its projectiles. It might replace the spiker) is certainly like a shotgun, at least in the sense that each has a large area of effect, and thus rewards a player's reticle accuracy less, and inaccuracy more.
     
  15. caughtsword4

    caughtsword4 Promethean

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    No, he just has the Tactical Package Firepower, which means you can put a primary into the secondary.
     
  16. That Scorch Guy

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    I wouldn't call the Light Rifle like the shotgun at all. It has a burst fire mode unscoped, very akin to the BR and a DMR-like sniper shot scoped. I don't see how that is inaccurate, or an AoE weapon.

    The Boltshot has a shotgun-esque fire mode, but it also has a more standard pistol-like shot that looks more like a Plasma Pistol shot. It's only AoE on a charge, and even then you have to be right on top of them to use it.

    Not all of the Promethean weapons look so nubish. Some do, sure.
     
  17. thesilencebroken

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    It's been on the list since I made this thread... it's even the first weapon listed under Covenant. lol
     
  18. zeppfloydsabbtull

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    Whoops, thanks. I wasn't paying attention to that.

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    You're right, not necessarily like a shotgun or AoE, but the slightly inaccurate burst spread of the Light rifle, which was characteristic of the BR, was actually considered to be a problem in terms of randomness at long range by a lot of H3 players (at least since Reach came out) before I realized that the BR wasn't perfect. When you factor in how you'll be knocked out of scope with the light rifle (without Stability) in a duel, and how the burst needs to be innacurate relative to the DMR at long ranges , it's still an unnecessary (if the sandbox wasn't the way it was) factor of randomness. So, not AoE, but a slight amount of intentional inaccuracy which makes long range duels random.

    I hope that the charged boltshot isn't as powerful as the mauler. It wouldn't be terrible though, because the likelihood that the user would get killed soon after wouldn't make it appealing to all players. I wonder if the PP can work like that. I never figured out why, but it would seem like the PP full charge disappeared at melee range in H3. In reach it was more reliable.
     
    #58 zeppfloydsabbtull, Sep 17, 2012
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  19. mazdak26

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    LOADOUT NAME: mazdak is awesome (of course)
    PRIMARY: Light rifle
    SECONDARY: Boltshot
    GRENADE TYPE: plasma
    ARMOR ABILITY: Auto-sentry
    TACTICAL PACKAGE: Resupply
    SUPPORT PACKAGE: Stability

    Don't you think spawning with plasma 'nades screws everything up? I mean, everyone's gonna choose it, and it's gonna turn into elite slayer.
     
  20. Wood Wonk

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    i wouldnt, in most cases. sure, theyre a bit more powerful, and obviously better against vehicles in BTB. but frags are the better choice (for most) in 4v4 slayer or lone wolves, especially when starting with precision rifles. gotta get those corner grenade throws for the shield takedown, followed by an easy headshot for the kill. stickies arent as effective for this because of lack of bounce, the detonation time, and obvious glowing blue ball in front of you (although the grenade indicator kind of nulls this).
     

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