Squad is one of the only MM playlists I venture into these days. Mainly because I prefer the TU and no AL. But it gets old playing the same three maps over and over(countdown, reflection, asylum). So I ask where is the love? How about some community made maps? I'm not sure how one would go about doing that. But it would be much appreciated by many people I know.
Squad is my go-to playlist as well. Basically you see the three you just mentioned plus Uncaged, occasionally Powerhouse, occasionally Zealot... that's about it. I'd like to see some community maps in there (good ones, not the crap pack that went into team slayer). I wonder why they didn't put in Sword Base? I realize a lot of people dislike that map, but many others are fine with it and it's certainly big enough to support 10.
The point of Squad Slayer is that it doesn't have any community maps.The only Forge maps it has are Asylum and Uncaged (ugh) and I'd like it to stay that way. I've seen enough gray in other playlists, keep it there. Also, it has plenty of maps: Condemned, Uplink, Tempest, Unanchored, High Noon, Penance, Solitary, Battle Canyon, Asylum, Uncaged, Reflection, Countdown, Boardwalk, Powerhouse, Arena Zealot In the end I'd rather just play Zealot, Powerhouse, Asylum and Countdown over and over again than play any of the Forge maps in Team Slayer.
I forgot about Boardwalk, that does come up every now and again. As for all the DLC maps though... NAH SON. I own all that DLC and play squad all the time, and those almost never come up even to get voted on. I like having them in the playlist, but they're ghost maps. I think the only one I've played more than one time in that playlist is Tempest. [br][/br]Edited by merge: Sure (with one or two exceptions - Select is a good map). But those were just bad choices. I've played good forge maps, as have you. We just need a better curator in charge of the selection process. Stuff like Enclosed shouldn't be in matchmaking, period, but that's not an indictment of custom maps in general.
I'd rather they just switch out the shitty Forge maps in Team Slayer with good ones instead of putting them in Squad Slayer.
Squad is a pain, because more often than not, you're playing a 5v5 on maps that can barely support 4v4. But that's where community made maps could shine, I suppose.
Squad Slayer was made because some people were asking for a a playlist akin to Team Slayer but without (most of) the forge maps. Also, I'm pretty sure that Team Slayer doesn't support 4-player splitscreen either so that's where Squad Slayer comes in.
Right the DLC NEVER comes up to be voted on. Countdown is to small for 4v4. I hate Zealot, Asylum and Uncaged. Reflection and Boardwalk are just tired. And I have only heard of Uplink let alone played it. I'm not saying they should add the ones that made it into Team Slayer, because most of those are terrible. With the exception of Select and Affinity but those are too small as well. I know there are tons of great maps out there that play amazingly well and could easily support 5v5 comfortably because I have played on them. [br][/br]Edited by merge: Well "some people" are retarded. Because there are plenty of good forged maps out there that use natural geometry and don't feel to "forgy" haha Also Chateau was pretty good.
You say some maps don't support 5v5, you hate 90% of the maps in Squad Slayer and you want more Forge maps in it. Dude, go play Team Slayer.
So you're one of those "size does matter" chicks, huh? I truly don't see what you're talking about there. You must like very roomy maps if you think Countdown is too small for 4v4 (!). I mean, if you've ever played BTB on Countdown or 4v4 on good ol' Longest/Elongation, THEN you've experiencing overcrowding. I think the size of most of the squad maps in there now is just fine, except for Reflection - that one simply because it plays much smaller than it is, since everyone gravitates to the same one place. I was about to say..! You should give more of a chance to Asylum and Zealot. Those are fine maps. Asylum isn't as good as Sanctuary but it's still fun, and Zealot is a really good map hampered only by the Reach 'nades and their micro-fuse.
Its not really the size of the entire map but more like the problem reflection has where everyone gravitates to the same areas. The same goes for countdown. Everyone fights for the top and just seems overcrowded. Asylum isn't bad I guess. I'm just tired of it too. [br][/br]Edited by merge: Uhh... NO. I thought I said why I don't play team slayer? I prefer the TU and dislike most of the maps in TS. And I want more forged maps in squad because apparently nobody has the EFFING DLC!
I get Boardwalk, Zealot and Powerhouse a decent amount. I agree that Countdown is voted in too much, but that's precisely because Sword Base isn't in. In TS, Sword Base was all that people voted for, they took it out in Squad and Countdown became the go to map. As for Sword Base not being in, that's honestly one of the reasons Squad captured my heart. I have to agree with people saying that, if you don't like 5v5 being crammed on to maps (and personally I disagree that Countdown is too small even for 4v4, it plays fine 5v5 if you ask me), and don't like the maps themselves, why are you playing Squad in the first place? I'm actually pretty happy that there are no forge variants in there, I dislike almost all the user maps put in to MM. That's not to say I don't like forge maps, I just dislike the vast majority of Bungie/343 chosen maps. I know it's easy to say as someone who has all the DLC, but I'd quite like to see Squad become DLC required. I agree that getting to play the new maps in there would be nice. EDIT: If you don't like the majority of forge maps in TS, what makes you think the ones they would (theoretically) add to Squad would be ones you like? That's precisely why I like it as a non-forge playlist, I've never been too sold on CC chosen maps tbh. Zealot is effin' BOSS!
TU Beta is generally my playlist of choice due to the lack of bad community maps, zero bloom, no AR starts, and access to DLC. (though I've yet to see ANY DLC, aside from in team swat.) Squad was once my favorite playlist for reasons that Peg listed, but it's since become annoying due to its hectic nature and occasional AR starts. Although, MLG has become quite fun lately because of no-sprint gametypes. In the next MM update, The Arena and Doubles with both receive TU changes, which I'm really looking forward to.
I like ZB, but I like 85% a lot more than I thought I would. I think that if Bungie had just set bloom to this level from the start, there would have been FAR fewer complaints and ZB might not have even been necessary (though I'm certainly not sad it happened) to placate people. ZB would be a lot more fun if I played in 4s often, but the fast nature of it and ease of shooting mean I have a harder time making up for the near limitless supply of bad team mates. I find that one of the things I have over most people outside of MLG is a decent feel for pacing, so I find making up for a bad team easier in playlists like Squad. However, when I do get a team together both TU Beta and MLG are fantastic. Arena and Dubs being playable again for me (I can't stand 100% bloom now) is gonna be fantastic. My friend and I used to play Dubs all the time, he was equally happy when I told him, and maybe I'll even be able to tempt him in to Arena every so often as well.
Only thing they have to do is remove the jetpack and active camo and Squad Slayer would be really good.
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