PETA has gone overkill again

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  1. R Richard P26

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    What point is that. I'm not adding up the times to find out what you're talking about.
     
  2. Indie Anthias

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  3. pyro

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    The whole thing is making fun of People for Extortion, Terrorism, and Anarchy. How is that line any different and why would it make you lose respect for them?
     
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  4. R Richard P26

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    I have to agree with them. I'd kill a lot of animals if it would end someone's suffering.
     
  5. Indie Anthias

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    It didn't ring of parody to me, I've watched this episode a few times. I loose respect for them because I don't think I've ever disagreed with a single point-blank statement more in my life. The reason I haven't lost all respect for them over it is because I do agree with virtually everything else they've ever said (which is a lot).

    Kill a lot of animals, debatable. Drive our nearest relatives to extinction over 1 human life: indefensable. I don't care if it's my life.
     
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  6. PacMonster1

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    Awh, so then the debate becomes what's the value of a human life. To you, 1 human life is not as important as the lives of many animals. Or is it specifically monkeys which you found offense with. What if they threatened to beat every poisonous snake to death with their bare hands, would that have been ok?

    I think you're reading a little too much into their point.
     
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  7. pyro

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    They're trying to make a joke about how "I'm ok with testing on animals to save people" can be extended to "I would rather an entire species die than one person" the same way the PETA basically say they would rather hurt humans than animals.

    Edit: Expand the acronym and the grammar is correct.
     
  8. Monolith

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    I agree that some animals are treated pretty terribly. I believe chickens and some sort of pig are treated the worst (I'm not entirely sure). At one point I helped raise money for Japanese dolphins, which are can be treated pretty badly (watch "The Cove" for some very gory footage). I've also seen a couple documentaries on sharks and the fin trade.

    I agree with raising awareness on one hand, but stuff like this is very controversial and may not rule with people's ethics or religious standpoints. And that should be an obvious no-no because it has potential to anger people, which isn't constructive.

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    PETA's means can be too dramatic. Though I understand what they're getting at.
     
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    I CBA to read all the other responses so don't **** flames if I just repeat everything that's been said.

    There's a fine line between desperate accusations and rational, justified allegations, PETA is in the desperate zone. Shouldn't PETA be glad they don't have many major animal cruelty cases to deal with? No, they want to go pick a fight because they fuss over the most minute problems they have with modern society.

    Also.......

    People
    Eat
    Tasty
    Animals.
     
  10. Monolith

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    Hah, that's a good way of putting it, SkaterPriest
     
  11. PacMonster1

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    It's the law that all food that we eat be killed in a humane way but I personally don't care. It's a chicken, it has a brain the size of a walnut and the higher learning ability to match. They are bred for the express purpose to be eaten so even if that chicken was punched in the face numerous times, as long as I don't actually witness it happening, I couldn't care less. Same thing with cows, veal on the other hand I won't eat because little cows are just too cute (that southpark episode got to me).
     
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    Honestly, once scientists can synthesize food that is healthy and tastes good, the world will be a better place.
     
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    lol my bad
    It is screwed up though, almost everywhere.

    Because humans are can only be experts on a few subjects out of all the subjects in the universe(all of them, Urinal cake flavors,Piano key quality,Quantum physics,Best plastic for tvs, there trillions of them) so when we encounter a subject we know little of we can either learn about this subject which takes effort and time and we might flat out not want to because there is a limit of how many subjects we can learn so we have to take the advice of people who seem knowledgeable in that subject and then they can use there advice any way they want. Just because they know something doesn't qualify them to be a good teacher or makes them be morally correct with there advice.

    People don't know much about animals and since P.E.T.A does know about animals is able to come along uses scare tactics to make those people join or support P.E.T.A to make money.
    I agree with you in that I almost always agree on what they say and I would also choose not to kill every monkey for one human.

    I just wanna say first that there humans they don't know everything. I don't know why they said they would kill every monkey for 1 human it seems like a bad choice to me but I haven't looked into the subject much(what would be the pros and cons of that choice, etc)
    It was just a personal choice,opinion,judgement call or something, not a fact, There humans they can have there own opinions and just because they have 1 opinion differently to yours doesn't mean you should lose respect for them. (I don't respect them any less)

    There will never be 2 rooms filled 1 room with all the monkeys in the world and the other room with a homeless guy with aids and you have to choose which one to kill, So there is some metaphor behind it so they could be saying they will kill any monkeys that is needed to save human lifes if they ever have that choice or come into that situation and again that's there personal choice there not saying it's the right or wrong thing to do, That's just what Penn and Teller would do(And I would probably kill monkeys to save humans if i ever had a choice. aka my train of thought spiderman situation Bus full of monkeys or a hot girl)
     
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    People are taking that line way to seriously. It makes much more sense as a parody of the absurdness of PETA's claims. If they were serious then it would be the only irrational, not to mention not laughable, thing they said.
     
  15. Spicy Forges

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    I think PETA noticed the laws already in place for the protection of animals AFTER they made there stupid little (actually its quite decent now) hippy group and thats the reason they have had to resort to stupid, crazy measures in order to keep the idea that they are actually doing something.

    Also lol at how they can justify the destruction of property as an act of animal liberation!
     
  16. PacMonster1

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    I find it funny how the word "ethical" is in their damn name and nothing they do is ethical.
     
  17. Indie Anthias

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    Hardly. That line was just the punctuation to a broadly misrepresentative treatment of the animal testing issue overall. In fact, the entire episode was aimed at PETA but they made several attempts to conflate PETA inanity with more universal animal rights philosophy and movements. They said, 'oh we're all for being kind to animals'... while wearing full suits of leather just to mock... not just PETA but everyone who is concerned with animal rights.
     
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  18. Shanon

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    I don't know about you, but I got a kick out of their satire.

    I don't have any beef with them.
     
  19. Skater

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    Cos they dun like beef silly.
     
  20. Shanon

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    Pun was very intended.
     

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