As far as forgehub is concerned he didnt do anything wrong, I know there is nothing wrong with having two names on two website. I never said there was anything wrong with it. I felt that I should report it here as well what he did over there. Because he is the maker of an important thread here, remakes, which people do like, its stickied! I wanted others to see what he is doing, It is not respectable. When you leave a comment on SomeOne elses thread and say its Sloppy ..Then also cross poss/advertise you are doing something wrong and against rules. If anyone is saying that he did nothing wrong then read the forums rules and then tell me again. He is also promoting maps that the makers have boosted wrongly as well. We should not be promoting other maps made by people that are not following rules. Its called morals, right from wrong. As a community it is up to us to say they are doing wrong and choose to not promote there work. As an example for those that do not understand, Micheal Vick. Nike pulled sponsoring because what he did. If you see a thread that is not fallowing the rules do not support it. Bungie hates everytime someone leaves another comment on a thread saying BUMP or say IM REPORTING YOU, or even worse. GREAT JOB! cause it will only keep them doing it. I have talked with them about this very matter... SO... what do you have here, some one that is incharge of a thread that does not follow rules, and promotes work my people that do not follow the rules aswell which in turn make it worse for the community. My point in posting over here is simple... The person in charge of this is doing things that are against rules. It should be looked into, and maybe forgehub should not have this thread stickied if the owner of it does not follow rules. As far as what I have said about other maps I say in general, Bungie hasnt given us yet enough things to work with in forge. FORGE MAPS in general look like lego junkyards. Mainly on foundry, and thats because of the style and texture maybe but for the most part, there just is not enough to work with. Just because he has been here longer than I does not mean he is a good person. I think I have made it clear and showed he did wrong by cross posting/advertising which he has done more than once, not just on mine and I explained that he is promoting others that are doing things not by the rules as well. To NINNI21, I disagree with what you say, It has nothing to do with you having two names on two accounts. It is about your actions you took on my thread and othes and breaking the rules. As far as what I said about you being friends with others that have fake accounts that is true, and you promote there work even if they are boosting it wrongly and against the rules. As far as what I said about a fake list, I mean that in two ways, 1- I was calling this fake because some of the makers have broken the rules. I saw some, not all, you know who you are. 2- there is yet another list on bungie that a friend of yours had, which it was clear He was promoting maps of just a close group. It seems you hang with and promote the wrong crowd to me. Those that do not follow rules. The only reason I went into all this WAS because I personally talked with BUNGIE about this matter and the effects it has on the community. What can people do and what people can not do and what they really really do not want people to do. I got fed up with others and the fake accounts posting on my thread slandering it and posting links to maps they make. If you want me to check out a map ask, do not say on MY thread that its garbage and go see this one, If you want to talk trash do it in your own thread. Post "Do not go to whyhers map, it sucks. go to the one you are in right now" just stay out of mine. My thread is not a map contest, It doesn't say anywhere, so do not post your maps, and for sure do not post "this is sloppy come see mine" it isn't a billboard either. Its the rules plain and simple. NINNI there is nothing wrong with you thinking anothers is better, there is nothing wrong with me thinking all maps look like junkyards. Just go about voicing your opinion BY the rules. While your at it, if you feel like doing something good for the people that made you the game. Do not promote people and there work if they are breaking the rules as well. If there is a sign of double posting, bumping, fake accounts, or wrong doing do not post there work on your thread. Bungie would appreciate it. About my map... the bowl part on the floor is an oval, if you look at mine from the top it is a rectangle and each corner is cut off, That is the closest thing you can get to an oval. And if you remember or if you dont just go look at your halo2 stats and look at a midship game and look at the pics of the map on the tab far right side, I forgot what it is, but you do have to jump up to get to the base level. it is only infront of the bases, The oval then rounds out on each side, tower and carbine side. the carbine side goes to a wall which you then most jump into carbine or go to your left or right and go up the smaller ramps which it does have. The tower side. You can walk straight into the plasma/ nad hole. I raised that for added effect, if you do not like that, kill the wall and drop the crate. I took into account things in halo3 that we did not have in H2, like making perfect jumps even the noobs can do now. the shot gun is stronger so if you want it you do not get as much cover as you did before with the lifts, It should be harder but not by much to go get that, well its not harder just a little more bare in the center for a reason. I wanted it to be midship for halo 3 not midship halo 2, that was a different game. You can not have needlers every where as well. I have one on my map ontop of carbine. That is why my post says "midship halo 3" not midship halo 2. Like you said XxTexasHornxX "you can't ask for much more or get much better unless bungie remade it themselves" I believe that to be true... this is midship for halo 3 not for halo 2....
I just went through all of my Bungie.net posts and I only once posted a link to another remake in someone elses map, and that was yours. I didn't do it because I was friends with the kid, I did it because I think its the best remake and people should be able to play on the best remake. I don't see what is wrong about promoting a map where the creator is boosting his map. If a map is a good remake, I add it to the list regardless of the maker. And I can't see how you say I hang with people who are promoting each others map? I am not friends with any other map maker, this list is just the best remakes I have seen, nothing more.
I did say that from the look of the screenshots but it is not perfect like you make it sound. There are a few issues though like it is not completely sealed off. With the elevated carbine room you can go underneath it with ease which becomes a hiding spot. Also the uneven surface makes for choppy gameplay and the top level by the fusion cores is not very accurate.
I could have blocked it off under carbine but felt it was not needed, if you do go under it you are almost for sure going to die, It also adds something new for H3 like the pipe in high ground, taking a hidden path. It is not that useful in my opinion but felt it does zero harm not blocking that off. Carbine was redesigned but still has the same feel. The top of carbine is more like the original than most think if you look at it closely. Some have said that the stairs do not go to the same level as the top like the H2. If you where on the eggs level( highest part) you have to jump over to get to top of carbine. This is not true. It may look that way but the cage fences are placed perfect to if you walk straight off them at that angle you will walk straight off to top of carbine. The carbine has an overhang which is part of the design. Before you could drop in from above. There is nothing to use at all to make a simular enough opening to drop in so comfortably so the shield doors work well because you can drop threw but not fire threw. the carbine room still has the same cover it gave, but you can see threw the shield doors, which is fine because when was the last time you could not see someone in carbine. Carbine was not a base. no one camps carbine like you could do in most remakes. People will find ways to get out of maps. I think the sooner the forge community realizes this the better it can get. Bungie realized it. We do not have 5% of the tools that they have in creating maps. If you block off and keep the battles contained and focused in the right areas it should not be an issue when you are playing forge maps. But if they really want to get out they will. Less time on that and more time on making it look good. one wall high is good enough, two is better! but one is fine. They, including myself, will find a way out if you want too. Play this map with friends and see what it really is... Not midship halo 2, but Midship for Halo 3. Ninni it is still the rules, you may disagree with the rules but that doesn't mean you can break them. I will forward you a part of the conversation I had with a bungie member about promoting others that do not fallow the rules. That just seems simple in and of itself to me.
Wow. This arguement is retarded. Who cares who made the map, its a good map nonetheless. And I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt you had a conversation with someone of IMPORTANCE to bungie about ANYTHING related to cross posting on the Bungie forums, let alone advertising maps of those that cross post on the bungie forums.
it's not a rule that you can not promote someone who breaks the rules. They just do not like it. Who does, I guess some do but if you are trying to be fair to everyone and have any order in something you are running. You have rules, people brake them they get in trouble, if no one cares then there are no use for rules then right, why have them. It is common sence to not support those that do wrong. This is retarded forge freak, you are right, I feel like Im trying to teach a lesson that everyone should have learned growing up.
Wow, the whyher. Wow. All he did was suggest what could be better in your map, and then posted one that he thought was superior. Even if it is "against the rules", why'd you get so freaking mad about it? Apparently you didn't learn how to cope with other people critiqing your work growing up, either. Or, for that matter, even learn how to form a coherent sentence.
!!RULES ARE RULES GUYS!! If you want to say all he did was critique my map and post what he thought was a superior map. Then all I did after that was critique the map he suggested and made him aware that he was being reported for crossposting/advertising because he did just that and broke the rules. Then he decided to come back and say more... Thats when I looked into it further with the maps, accounts, and threads... The rule is there for lots of reasons. My thread doesn't need a link to go to your thead, I dont need any pop-ups, Im not advertising for you, thanks but no thanks. Ill stick to the rules... !!OBEY THE RULES!! !!ITS SIMPLE!! I dont feel it necessary to form complete sentence on most forums pinback, sorry if you got lost.
Im over it, I think everyone knows the rules by now, I made a warlock, almost done, and yes its the best. ill send it too you voodoo when Im done.
Whyher, I'm curious why you remade Warlock. You had nothing but good things to say about my remake in the original thread on Bungie.net. And mine is the one being used on this list. Was there something about mine that needed fixing? I asked for feedback so i could make mine better if necessary. Or did you just comment on my thread as a way of advertising your own Midship remake? I know mine isn't perfect (not even possible in Foundry) and that other versions have been chosen on other Halo map remake lists, and for good reasons. So i won't be upset if a better one comes along and knocks mine off the list. I just feel a little backstabbed that you would rate mine so highly (and in doing so promote your own map), then turn around and make your own, and post about how "it's the best"; in essence saying, "I could do better". Sure, you didn't direct link to your Midship in my thread, but you spent more time in your post talking up your map and where to download it, than you did commenting on my map. This seems to knock your credibility down a peg, Mr. "Rules are Rules". I should also add, Voodoo, you are doing a great job with this thread. A lot of people wouldn't take the time to keep this up as well as you do. I would not be offended or upset if my a map of mine that was on your list was knocked off by a better version. That is how the map-making community improves. If you end up preferring Whyher's (or anyone else's) remake, then by all means kick mine to the curb.
Ooh, whyer you might want to come eat your crow Mr. I-am-going-to-tell-on-you-to-bungie-for-posting-a-map-that-could-rival-mine, you f*ckin hypocrite.
I saw your map and had to comment on it because I thought it was fantastic, It looked really good, and polished too. I checked out the one that is on this thread but it was different than the one I believe I left a comment on. You must have changed it. I DID NOT BREAK THE RULES WHAT SO EVER TO ANYONE THAT SAYS SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE NOT ALOUD TO POST LINKS IN OTHER THREADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS CROSSPOST/ADVERTISING I MENTIONED MY MAP BECAUSE I REALLY THOUGHT THEY PAIRED WELL TOGETHER. HIS MAP AT LEAST THE 1ST VERSION I SAW LOOKED LIKE A REAL MAP NOT LEGO JUNKYARDS LIKE I THINK ALL DO... AGAIN. YOU MAY TALK ALL YOU WANT ABOUT A MAP IF YOU WISH IN A THREAD. IT IS NOT AGAINST THE RULES. YOU MAY NOT POST A LINK IN A THREAD. THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE IS IF THE THREAD ASKS FOR OTHERS TO POST LINKS IN IT. SAY FOR CONTESTS OR SOMETHING... IF YOU READ AGAIN IN AN EARLIER POST I SAID THAT I DO NOT CARE IF YOU ASK ME TO LOOK AT ANOTHER POST/THREAD/MAP... WHY DO I NOT CARE??? BECAUSE IT IS NOT AGAINST THE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...JUST DO NOT LINK IT ON THE THREAD, THAT IS AGAINST THE RULES.... IN MY OPINION... I DO BELIEVE IF YOU WHERE TALKING ABOUT A MAP/LINK/TOPIC LONG ENOUGH IT CAN GET TO THE POINT OF CROSSPOST/ADVERTISING. SO IF SOME ONE KEPT POSTING ABOUT ANOTHER MAP ON MY THREAD LIKE SAY 10 TIMES BUT NEVER LEFT A LINK... I WOULD SAY THATs RUDE AND NOT RIGHT... SO THEN WHAT I WOULD SAY TO DO IS REPORT IT AND LET BUNGIE DECIDE IF THAT FALLS UNDER THE CATAGORY OF CROSSPOST/ADVERTISING. I DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE ON THAT ONE, NEVER THOUGHT OF IT WHEN I SPOKE TO SOMEONE ABOUT RULES AND COMMUNITY BUT WOULD GUESS THAT IT WOULD... ABOUT WARLOCK I did not realize that the two maps where the same maker. I think each has some fixing, I was going to mention when I posted mine where I got inspiration from... I loved the first ones center look to it, the one I commented on. When I downloaded it I was a little disappointed by the play of it but still thought it was RAD, but needed a lot more work. I looked at the one on this site, i guess it is the V4 and I would not even guess it was made by the same person. You lost a lot of design, my guess is in order to make up for game play. I saw you made the BR platforms larger I think under them like most are very bare. I do not like the new center at all. My guess there is you needed to make it smaller because it was to large and in open crate doesn't provide much cover. What I did like was the outer lay out of it. The BR platforms and outer shape is impossible to make and you did a really great job on doing what you could. This V4 got sloppy, probably because you changed it as many times. So that is understandable now that I realize it to be the same maker. Something I did want to mention was that it is not the right size on each side. the map looks a little large and the width is longer than the length. Did you realize that? not sure if you did, But what I took from the V4 was the spawns, TEX long horn guy said yours had all the right ones. I can not believe that both are yours. Thats great. I was going to leave a comment about the new one and say that I saw another one that someone else made and thought it had more going than this one. HAHA. both you did some good things, really good things. I was going to look up the name of both makers and at least give then a mention because I believe they both did great things. Now I only need to mention one name. I am sorry about recreating this one buddy, The only reason I did it was because I knew it would be very easy, It is a very small map with perfect symmetry. I pounded it out in 2 days work. game types and all. I have never seen anything in any forge map that I thought worth taking an idea and expanding on it. Your work did that. Thank you... It is a simple map and there is not much you can do. Mine is perfectly straight, line up on all sides. I nailed it as far as it just piecing together perfectly, I think you will be shocked, maybe not the community because if you did not try to make it, you would not understand, but things along the walls, its hard to get it all perfect the connect. I got it all to connect on all sides like I had directions on "how to make warlock on foundry." Whats kind of funny was to avoid the blam talking I would look to see if you could do something in yours then say will if he could do it then I could do it! Like if you try you can jump from the stairs to the center. Your stairs are almost in the same place as mine do, but I guess most are, warlock is such a simple easy map, I think most look the same because of it and its easy to get that H1, H2 feel in any of them. GREAT JOB on all your work. I was going to post a link to your thread, the one I left a comment on and let everyone know this guy did not get enough credit that he deserved on this warlock. you know because you said something about ratings and comments. wanted to show some love for you and show others your work. and.... if any one was wondering... I can post a link to his map if I was to on my warlock thread. I can do that, others can not... for the record... I will release it soon, I have a few more too that I have not released yet. The Halo 3 Whyher'd Map Pack !!!coming soon!!! don't steal that...
I think you are confusing this list with the one on Bungie.net. The one on Bungie.net's map forum (posted by Soaring Eagle) has the "V4" map you are referring to. I had nothing to do with that version. The version linked on this thread does lead to the one i designed, that you complimented. The two lists are kept up by different individuals with different aesthetics. Voodoo picked my map over the other because it was more similar to the original (as you agreed). SoaringEagle chose the other for his list because he said it was more fun to play, even though not as accurate. I cannot comment on game play, because i do not have the time nor the friends-list to play every map enough to judge them properly. Thats why i rely on feedback from those who do. And i trust their word. I have already responded to your PM, and hopefully this is the end of the argument on this thread, so we can move on to more productive matters. Like i said in the PM, no hard fellings, and good luck with your new maps.
To all those who have been keeping up with the Classic Halo Map remake thread/community... Voodoo has ok'd the idea of including an "Honorable Mention" for each of the remakes on his main post. So we need comments on alternate versions of remakes that are truly worth playing, but that are not already on the list. Please include a link to the map, and briefly describe what makes it worthy of a mention on the first post. Please try the maps that are already linked first, for basis of comparison. Currently, the idea is for Honorable Mentions to be chosen by vote (though im not sure how this will be done at this time). Either Voodoo or i will update this info after we hammer out the details.
That is one large block o' text. You crack me up, furniture designer. If you break down cross posting it really means posting on something non related in a post which is what both of you did. You go all out on him but when you do it, it is perfectly fine when in reality yours is much worse. You are posting on your map while he is posting on another map and having a link is irrelevant you are still advertising your own map. You act like you go by these rules but in reality you are just an immature furniture designer that wants his shitty maps to be seen. Your midship is crap, grow up. I find it hard to believe you are in your 20s cause if you are I really worry.
Alright, boys, one more post on this controversy and I'm reporting both of you for bannanation. This is called a flame war. If you want to resolve this, seek out a moderator or staff. Don't spam this thread with it. Every single post will most likely be deleted soon. You've both been severely warned. Texas, I respect you, so you don't really have much to worry about, unless you keep feeding the troll. Whyher, I don't know who the heck you are, but you're antics aren't welcome here. You've got ten posts, all of which are flames. Watch yourself, carefully.