EDIT - Since I seem to be getting the same response a thousand times (usually from the same three people), I will point out per later posts in this thread that the ten minute limit explained below is not really the point. The point is to have it be a short amount of time that can be fairly judged by a third party - we need to be able to review a video clip and determine that whatever the amount of time was, that's all the time you actually used. Be it ten minutes, an hour, or a day. I only said 10 minutes because it was hard to imagine how a much longer duration would be feasible. The specifics are being looked into. If you think this is a bad idea strictly because of the 10 minute limit, pretend it's a 60 minute limit instead, because it might end being that. Thanks for your cooperation in not driving me insane. I just had this idea for a contest and thought it might be pretty amusing. Here's the gimmick: build the best map you can in no more than ten minutes. There are no other restrictions. You can work from a floor plan or Sketchup or whatever if you like, but whatever you start with - be it a blueprint, a vague idea, or nothing but chutzpah and your imagination - you have no more than 10 minutes to finish the geometry. (There would be unlimited time after that to set up spawns/weapons/objectives - after all, I'm not a complete monster.) Along with the map, you'd also have to put a clip in your fileshare from the forge session, proving that you built the whole thing in just ten minutes or less, and whatever is shown at the end of that clip would have to match the geometry of the submitted map. What do you think of the notion? If there were such a contest, would you consider submitting to it?
I would pass on this contest. Even if I have a map/idea fully sketched up on paper, it would still take me much longer than 10 minutes to forge. Hell, I can waste ten minutes trying to get a ****in drop-spawning sniper to land where I want it to. Even if I were to construct a map within the time frame, it would most definitely look, feel and play sloppily.
I'm sure most of them would, but the few speed-forging geniuses who made something like a fully-realized map would truly earn their praise, don't you think? Personally I usually spend hours upon hours building anything... I don't know what I could pump out in ten minutes, but I'm sure it would take a lot of pre-planning to be at all good. By the way, I would think it could be longer than 10 minutes, except for the fact that the more time you give the harder it is to verify. A bunch of 10 minute video clips wouldn't take more than a few hours to fast-forward through, but if it was a 30 or 60 minute contest instead, no one would want to judge it.
You can't rush perfection...I'd hate to have an amazing map in my head only for the whole thing to fall apart due to running out of time.
Perfection isn't the point - if you have a fantastic and complex map idea, you probably wouldn't want to use it for a contest like this! This is more about giving you a different kind of restriction to try to do something creative with. The kind of objection you're making is like saying "I could build a better map with $10000 than with $5000" or "I could build a better map with unlimited objects than with just 2x2 banks." Probably true on both counts, but that's not really the point, ya know? Of course, the time limit here might be exploited in a variety of ways too. You could build an entire map at a normal pace just to see how it all fits together, then see if you can RE-build it in ten minutes or less for the contest. I know that sometimes I'll spend hours building one side of a map, then build the other symmetrical side of it in one-tenth of the time just because I know what goes where now. Something like that might be possible on an entire map.
Fair point. I guess one way of doing it would be to go into an area like blood gulch where the floor and scenery is already done for you so you can just focus on the bases for the whole time... Still...Got to fly over there and fly from one base to another, together that would probably take about a minute. Leaving 4:30 for each base...Would take a more efficient forger than me thats for sure. I just don't have the focus. I place an object and when it looks right I celebrate by flying around the map for 2 minutes Nice idea though...
I'd do this contest. I think I could build a decent infection map or 2v2 map in about 10 minutes. Prolly not though, but it's a good idea.
I would definitely enjoy this idea, and it would be like the hardest challenge out there. 30 minutes would be good, but as you say - not so fun to watch through all submissions. 15min maybe? It's all just about having it all planned out, and then work fast. If it is okey to place spawn's, objectives and weapons AFTER the 10 minute limit I be all over the idea. And will special Gametype's be allowed with it? Already thinking of ideas anyway!
Yeah, I would think all spawns, weapons, and objectives could be tinkered with as much as you want after the 10 minutes. Special gametypes might be OK. I'm also thinking it would be fun to allow co-forging - a focused group of people working from a plan might actually be able to build something awesome in even this short amount of time. Also I'd have to put in a stipulation that you could start from a template - meaning go into Forge World, delete the three initial spawns, fly to wherever you want to build, and lay down a single respawn point. Then you could start your official session from that point so as not to waste time on things other than building.
That is an excellent idea with Co-Forge and the Initial spawn fix, cause that would cause big problems very likely. I hope you feel that you want to post this Competition idea, cause I am a fan of it!
Intriguing idea, but not sure how it'd pan out. I'd definitely give it a good go, but dont know what any maps would turn out like in ten minutes. Probably very messy . Still, I wouldn't say no to having a go. To those naysayers, you never know unless you try, no point poo-pooing something when you've got no idea what could happen. Give it a go, you might surprise yourself.
I think maps would look a little rushed, yes. But it would work since all competitors have done the same. Gameplay on maps would be interessting to see how it turns out.
This reminds me of the gameshow The Block. Maybe we should try doing that. Make a halo version of the block.
Hour limit would be possible. Ten minutes isn't enough to make anything playable. We need another lazy forger contest. It's probably more work now though. For those who don't know, that means no merges or interlox or floating objects. For those who don't know what interlox are too bad.
I've decided I'm going to run this contest once the submission deadline for the 5000 budget contest is near or past. That will also give me time to finish with a couple of my own forge projects and have nothing on my plate. Anybody who wants to make other suggestions for the contest, go right ahead!
I actually thought about something like this a while ago. I'd love to give it a try, but anything I made would probably epic fail. Maps that I make in 10 hours aren't even very good, much less 10 mins. I'd probably go for it anyway tho, just to see how I'd do.