I loved halo 3 forging and the day reach came out i raced home so i could forge. I started up forge and wasn't happy with it. It's to easy to make anything. Everyone can make maps now. Someone who can't make something in halo3 good can now make anything in reach. Making maps became to easy and no credit should be given to anyone who thinks they are good at forge and didn't play halo 3. Anyone who forged on halo 3 really deserves the credit we couldn't merge on command, set barriers, etc. I wish people would go back to halo 3 forge, i would love to see new posts in halo 3. I don't care what anyone things about what i am saying, you can hate idc i just wanted to express this
Yeah, god forbid it's easier to make awesome maps huh guys? So what if people want to use Reach? Just because you prefer something shouldn't mean we should all use it.
It's inconceivable that I could disagree more with what you're saying. Credit given to forgers should be for map design, not the arduous process of actually building it. The fact that people put so much more emphasis on the technical feat of building rather than the design itself was EVERYTHING that was wrong with Halo 3's forge.
This. Plus, there are waaaaay more things that go into a good map. For example, spawns are just as, if not more difficult in Reach. Also, just because you merged objects in a map doesn't make it good. I've seen some ungodly maps that merged in H3 and Reach. Plus, in Reach, merging makes textures overlap and makes the map worse. So, yeah. Making maps is easier. Does that mean making a good map is easier? No. Does that mean making a bad map is easier? No. The level of a good map is much higher in Reach than it was in H3. The best forgers from H3 stepped up, and the ones who weren't so great stepped up right behind them. You can still distinguish the best from the no-so-good, it's just that they can both make better maps than they used to be able to. The gap between them is still there, and it's still the same.
The thing is, the maps in Halo 3 were only so good because there were only a handful of people who could actually forge well enough, and have the patience, to make them. In Reach, people are getting the same quality of games, they're just looking for too much. That plus, everyone and his mother can now finish forge maps, meaning there's going to e quite a bit of crap to wade through to get to the good stuff. But that's no reason to go back to Halo 3's forge. It was hugely flawed, arduous and forging itself was usually a boring task.
I think everyone should go back to chiseling words into stone! I loved writing and the day pencils came out i raced home so i could write. I picked up a pencil and wasn't happy with it. It's to easy to make anything. Everyone can make stories now. Someone who can't make something in stone good can now make anything in pencil. Making words became to easy and no credit should be given to anyone who thinks they are good at writing and didn't carve in stone. Anyone who wrote on rocks really deserves the credit we couldn't just slide lead across paper, erace, etc. I wish people would go back to stone carving, i would love to see new posts in the cave walls. I don't care what anyone things about what i am saying, you can hate idc i just wanted to express this
Holy ****, I love you so much. And to add on to that, here's something to think about. I forged in Halo 3, and I consider myself to have been very good at it. I made three maps that I'm proud of in Halo 3, and so many more unfinished ones. One of which was featured. Despite this, I would NEVER want to go back to that piece of **** forging system. Taking a year to make a map only to have it squashed due to budget issues is NOT fun.
My impression of every Halo 3 forge thread response ever: "WHY DIDNT U HAVE SOME GEOMERGING" There's nothing wrong with tools making our lives easier. Some things forged in Reach would have been inconceivable in Halo 3. Be grateful.