Can a sequel be better than an original?

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  1. Aschur

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    Most recent Final fantasy games > all the other ones.

    In fact, most games nowadays do a good job on improving from the last iteration of the series, with the exception of sports games, guitar hero, and CoD.
     
  2. Shanon

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    Simple Tees > Graphic Tees
     
  3. DunkinMyCookies

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    Wasn't as bad as you may have heard; granted I never was a fan of Gears multiplayer but they definitely got their **** together with 3.


    Yeah.
     
  4. Ladnil

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    What were those people's opinions of Gears 2?
     
  5. Matty

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    I think this all boils down to how people appreciate artists, or creative people. The story of the artist is important in the same way as the story of his or her art.

    Ponder on that.
     
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  6. CHUCK

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    i love this topic, it spans across pretty much every form of media.
    i've found that with film, making a successful sequel is a tall order. video games and music, successful sequels are all over the place. In a way to me, it almost seems reversed with music and games. For all of the above, sequels of sequels is usually where the trouble comes in.

    The way i see it, for the gaming industry, sequels are definitely the ones that make bigger killings with copies sold and such and a lot of the time, they are better since the first in a franchise is usually the one to break the ice and test the waters. Sequels are there to improve everything learned from the previous (ideally, anyway). The problem arises when sequels of sequels of sequels start pouring out of a dead horse as we see happen far too many times in the media. If it makes money, there will be more of it, whether there's room for more or not.

    In the end, as it's been said by others, it's subjective. You can try and point out and organize all the good sequels and bad sequels out there, but in the end, you're collecting apples and oranges and trying to find a common rule they all share. There really isn't one, a good thing is a good thing.

    Short answer: Yes.

    going to watch Aliens brb
     
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  7. Flameblad3

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    Chuck, seeing as you mentioned Aliens, I'm going to use that for my comparisons in this topic.

    Personally, I liked Alien more than Aliens, whereas I enjoyed Aliens more.

    In this case, I like the original more than the sequel, but enjoy the sequel more. I find this with lots of these type of things, and I imagine the same is with lots of people. People tend to like originals more for a few reasons;
    1. First game/film of its kind (think Pokemon Red/Blue)
    2. New, unique game/film (think Halo CE)
    3. Attitude and feeling in this game/film not present in sequel (think Gears of War - in the second I felt no feelings of desperation and desolation like the original)
    4. Nostalgia's sake

    So, sequels tend to lose these factors and not make the patron like the product as much - however, normally gameplay is improved, ramped up in scale and faster and more exciting which will leave the patron have more fun and enjoy it more.

    But like what was said earlier in the thread, when the third installment is released, that is when things typically go downhill. Look at CoD - no. 3 wasn't as enjoyable as no. 2. Then it picked itself up again with CoD4 and went downhill again, but that's a different story. Halo 3 was inferior to Halo 2, Star Wars ep. 6 was ridiculous (in my opinion), all of CoD after 4 was like MILKMILKMILKMONEYMONEYMONEY.

    My point is, after all my rambling, is that a sequel will never be the same as an original, but whether it is better, is entirely based on opinion.
     
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  8. raexe

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    It happens and it will always happen to everything.

    Just take a look to the COD series, the developers doesn't even care about the community. All they want is money.
     
  9. Niko Jims

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    Yes, but the only people that seem to be able to do it are Nintendo and Valve. For example, Paper Mario: TTYD is better than Paper Mario, but they are both 10/10 games. For Valve, just look at HL1 vs HL2 and L4D1 vs L4D2 or TF:C vs TF2. There are more better sequels for Nintendo but I would rather keep it short.
     
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