Your written English is better than most Americans/Brits I see on forums, including this one. I kind of assumed you were a native English speaker living in Germany, is that not the case? Not trying to say you should if there are other reasons etc. but if that's what's holding you back then I honestly wouldn't let it.
I would totally be up for joining the Review Hub, but there are a few problems... 1. I'm not the best writer. Though I am in Honors English at High School, I'm nowhere near an excellent writer. I would apply anyway, however my main reason... 2. Not enough friends online and Reachin' it up to play customs. The biggest group I've organized for customs is 5 people. If other people would play with me, I could get a sizable group and I'd submit an application.
I honestly do not have that much time. I barely play xbox during the weekdays and... I have seriously thought of joining the RH in the past, but never felt I could deliver. Maybe I'll apply during the summer.
Here's why I left the hub. 1) I was never satisfied with my own work. I'm particularly picky when it comes to my own writing; unless I feel that it's at the best of my ability, I don't get the satisfaction from it. 2) The time and place. I get behind in school a lot, and shortly after joining, I was in another academic hole. The stress just started to build up. 3) Lack of creative freedom. I love to write, I really do, but only when given that certain degree of freedom. I never felt like I was given that in the Hub. However, Because of the changes I'm seeing, it's highly likely that I'll be joining again soon. As soon as school slows down, I'm all for it.
I respect your opinion so I'm only going to respond to this part of your response as it is not so much a response on Review hub but reviews in general. A 10 is a perfect score. You have to think through the ramifications of what that means if one is given. That means that there was literally nothing wrong with the map. Everyone who plays it will love it. Then you have the precedent that the score will set. All other map creators will wonder what made that map so special. Then we'd see hundreds of maps trying to directly recapture what made that map a 10 based on what was said of it. Should all those maps that follow the same advice get 10's too? It is not a "not giving out 10's" thing. It's a, 10 is a very hard score to get and it has yet to be achieved thing. How many professional review perfect scores do you see for other media? There are only a handful of games that get a "10" and that isn't universal across all publications, some are more lax than others. I know of no movies that have ever been given a perfect review. Just think of it as a bell curve thing. Most scores will be in the 5-7 range because that is the average. I know it's hard to come to grips with how our scoring system works, but a 5 is not a bad score, in fact 5 is average. A 7 is actually a great score. A select few maps will be 4 and below and fewer still will be in the top 8-10 range. Maybe when we get more members and can review more maps we'll have a larger base of maps to sample and you'll see your 10 one day.
If 10 is perfect, then it is very much a "not giving out 10's" thing. Either it is understood to be perfect and therefore never given out, or it is simply difficult to attain but not perfect. Either way of doing it is fine, but it has to be clear which way RH is choosing to interpret it. If the consensus is that a 10 is perfect, then it ought to say so somewhere.
That's pretty clearly insinuated.... I mean honestly, a 10 is the highest possible score, I understood that from the moment I found the review hub. EDIT: Show me a map that you think should be a ten, and I'll tell you why it isn't. Halo 3 or halo reach.
Bell curves are based on a static model, static being a single assignment, or a single class, forge shifts in quality, from map to map, and maker to maker. So the bell curve is not the best way to go about it.
Sure, there's a thread that states it, I'm just pointing out that there is a difference and it has to be clear.
It was an example of a frame of mind to view it not the set in stone way the system works. And Chrono, you're assumption is that perfect is unattainable. That is not what I said and not what perfect means. A perfect map is very hard to get and that is why there are no 10's SO FAR. Again there have only been 20 or so maps reviewed total for Reach thus far. Out of a sampling of 20 or so maps you are surprised there are no 10's? Again the point is we are not any different than any professional reviewer in this regard and any complaints about this system is a complaint on reviews in general and not review hub. Otherwise what would you propose. Make an 11? Then 11 would be the "perfect" score and people would complain that is not being given out.
This is quoting me btw. To expound the matter, to use a "bell curve" effectively, you would have to know the whole of the population of forge maps, and be able to assign a clear, agreed-upon score to each one, based on the aggregate scores of them all. In less confusing terms, you need to know the entirety of Forge's creations, which you literally cannot do until Forge is over and done with. There are arguments about statistics you can make in general (how people apply data and use a standardized curve to make predictions) but Forge is a shifting model that has no clear objective pattern. Populations move up or down, similarly creations get "better" or "worse" but in the latter case, it is purely subjective. Tell me what a perfect map is then? You can try and define, and whatnot, but ultimately, if you have this "ideal" that has not been attained yet, by definition you do not know what it is. In fact, Plato and Aristotle have both written papers on the very notion of perfection (moreso Aristotle, on "ideal"). It simply cannot be until it is (obviously). Not that it is unattainable, simply that it is illogical to base a scale on that notion. So to sum stuff up, Tusk's assertion that a nonexistent ten shifts the review process to a 9 point scale is true simply due to how RH uses the scale in practice.
The possibility of a perfect map is certainly available. If I had been given the option in Halo 3, Sentinel and Fronk would've both been tens in my book. However, I see your point. To achieve a perfect score in Reach, (I'll use a competitive map for example) a map must be incredibly innovative, have flawless spawns, coupled with brilliant aesthetics and silky smooth framerate. This is essentially impossible. But, that does not mean that our rating system should be changed by any means. Each category is Individually weighed, and averaged by the end. So while it is near-impossible to score perfectly in all categories, it is not impossible to score well in specific ones.
Just answered this point in my last post. I said bell curve as an example of the number of our scores given out so far, not the definition of how Review Hub reviews maps. Kuroda's edit does not reflect Review's Hub's thought process. We review maps one at at time and to the best of our ability guided by the criteria we are given. Does any subconscious aversion to giving out 10/10's on sections and thus a perfect score exist. I can't answer that only to say probably. It's a common psychological fact that people have an aversion from rating something the lowest score or the highest. That has nothing to do with Review Hub, that is just basic nature of people. The assertion that a nonexistent 10 makes it a 9 point scale is incorrect. As I said, a 10 is very hard. It is assumed because we keep saying it is a perfect score that it is unattainable. In fact I gave a map a 9.2. Out of a 9 point scale that would be impossible. So while I would venture the question of why anyone cares if a map gets a 10 versus a 9.5, I will just reiterate my statement that this point of contention is not about Review Hub and is how all professional reviews are done. There is always a "perfect" score, and it is always very hard to get. Anyway this topic is about why people would not join Review hub for specific reasons not a generalizations about its members or about reviewing as a medium.
It's not that complicated, just don't call 10 "perfect". That directly implies it isn't possible, because nothing is perfect. If you do consider it perfect, then you don't actually give it out, because it's not possible.