Pavilion

As you've quoted in my test feedback; that is only my opinion of the map. I also haven't addressed every single point that the other people are also putting towards you as I only had time for one game of capture the flag on it. I'd take note of all the criticism you're receiving from some of well established forgers on Forgehub as their maps have been featured and known widely throughout the forging community for maps that featured amazing gameplay and aesthetics.

Ideally, you shouldn't really be asking for assistance from the Tester's Guild if you've already released your map AND had it reviewed. And not being happy with a score of 8.1? I'm not sure how it hits 8.1 as the average score for your map is 7.8 but I'd be extremely happy if one of my unfinished maps got a review that high. Most maps don't get anywhere above 6 or 7.

 

I played some casual 2v2 on this last night,
i was very impressed by your design.
i had been meaning to make a map in that spot, and i had a start to one,
but it has nothing on this. you really transformed the space.

the underside of the map wasnt used much in our game,
but that i suspect is mostly due to the player count being low.
gameplay on the map was still a lot of fun, and i imagine it will be more fun with a full party.

perhaps this is also due to low player count, or maybe i had been playing an old version,
but the snipers for each team spawned very close to each other and it was easy
for us to just take both of them before the other team even knew snipe had come up.

all in all though, i thought it was a good map.
dont worry about download counts.

 

Very well down im very picky for btb maps because i dont care to mucg for btb but this map made me change my mind. If only it was in the matchmaking playlist, then id play btb more. Keep up the good work.

PS: I saw some comment about a weekly testing lobby, if you don't mind i may be interested. PM me and give me the details. And if you dont have one PM me so we can make one.

 

I think this is going to be put in matchmaking prsonally. You probably dont have to make anymore changes but i would but thats just cuz im ocd about stuff lik that. Put the snipers at the bottom of th base or something.

 

Those jump pads are much more noticable. I like the sniper down low because it gives you a reason to go down there. excellent work Bows.

 

Very well done with those elevators beneath the bases! Those really help with going down that hole! Took me a while to figure out how the hell they worked, but once I did... I'd be lying if I said I wasn't impressed.

I'm glad to see you've switched the rockets and the sword. Those were two things I was hoping for. It's just the little things, you know? I also loved seeing all the little things here and there. The "patio" of the bases looks much better and the placement and reduction in number of the sniper rifle feels much better.

Although these are all very good things, I can't say much would've changed in terms of your score. The 8.1 is an overall rating and at the very least would've changed to maybe a 8.2. Through you're final changes you have retained the original glory and function of the map, so in no way has it gotten worse.

Never one to be sentimental, I'm gonna give it to you straight. There are still many ways that this map can improve. I can see that you've poured a lot of time and effort into Pavilion, however we all have to start somewhere. By no means is this map the apex of your potential forging ability. There are many places in which the aesthetics may be improved (such as the featureless walls around the entire complex) although I understand you have run out of resources. Not that you should change this about Pavilion, though it is something to keep in mind during your future forging sessions. These are all areas which can be improved on, and are definitely things mastered over time.

You've got the fundamentals for a good map tied down, and that's more than most forgers can say. You've also got the ability to bring a great vision to successful fruition. I'm sure that you'll do absolutely outstandingly if you keep at it! I look forward to your next one.

 

Didn't expect to like this as much as I did.

My customs group and I played this 5v5 and 8v8 over the weekend and I was surprised. The aesthetics are obviously there in the pics in ur post, but I expected another hey I had this really cool idea to poke a bunch a trees through a map posts. The sight lines on this are impecable and the flow, and spawns are really good too. Don't know why it reminded me of tombstone a little. Would be cool if you could jetpack and camp the rooftops a little but thats just me. I know why you put softkills up there cause a sniper would pretty much be unstopable

Killer map.

MRX

WHERE EAGLES DARE

 

I've been fortunate enough to test this map, and it's always been a pleasure.

The sight lines are great, and I never felt like I had any trouble finding a weapon near at hand. And speaking of spawns, they never left me feeling far from the action or wondering which direction to go.

I love the map, Bows!

 

First off, let me say, the natural ForgeWorld Geometry you picked was a good choice, the center provides cover while the canyon provides a much needed change of scenery. I do see you made some changes and you seem like you want to make a change for the better and so I’m going to try and highlight as many things possible that need fixing. Bite your tongue and listen up!

First things first, is the front of the bases, the two shallow walkways and the 1x4 have to go, they look awkward and feel awkward. Change it up, add something that players can walk on from all angles, it allows for better player movement. Same thing goes with the Ramp on top of the platform Y, place a piece in there that will make the area level, it will again help player movement. Steep ramps mess with player orientation, I’d advise you to remove all of them and replace them with a less steep alternative or lower the platform they are lead up too.

Second thing, ramps that go into natural rock, are a big no no, for instance your ramp to blue base jump pad is one of those ramps to natural rock. Once again player movement is hindered in this area, because they are unable to move up and down the ramp easily enough. Again we see this on the ramp to the red base jump pad. Same thing player movement is restricted.

Onto the jump pad hallways, once a player is committed to going this route if they are engaged, an enemy can easily kill them, because it is such a long hallway and because it is so skinny. I would seriously think about reworking this area.

Onto the bases themselves, they feel as if they could be brought out more towards the center and expanded quite a bit. Not sure if you want to do that, but right now they are small and if one team controls the spawns, they can either spawn kill or predict where the other team is going to spawn.

I can’t even find words to describe the picnic table area… wait, I got it! It’s congested and open at the same time! Kill the picnic tables as they provide almost absolutely no benefit what so ever. You can use those pieces more effectively in another part of your map. Pull the green pillar wall all the way to the ramp and break the wall up so people can use those ramps. The bridge in this area is way too long and seems out of place, I would seriously consider scraping the bridge and finding an alternative solution. I would suggest adding height to this area, making it somewhat of a focal point for players to be, as it stands it’s flat like the rest of the map.

The bridges that lead to the center, lead players into rocks, they look and feel awkward. In addition to this, on red side the front ramp leads right into a tree, as forgers we cannot just build around the default scenery we have to make the scenery work for our maps. Also, the ramps leading into the canyon feel awkward, shrink blue side so it matches the default scenery.

In conclusion, player movement is hindered by rocks, trees, ramps, and more in many areas on the map. In addition to this the steep ramps disorient the player immensely. I feel this map has gone for more of an aesthetic route, because of these fundamental gameplay flaws. Players often have to commit themselves to an area way too often.

If I had to give this map a rating, I would give it 3.5

 

I played the previous version of this map and enjoyed it. Im downloading the latest version now, looking forward to seeing and playing on it with the updates.

 

I can't get enough of this map I like how it is simple and not huge like so many forgeworld maps are. I've enjoyed it on 4 vs 4 primarily. Also just wondering, did you make this with people getting on top of buildings and the outer wall in mind? It is not very hard to jump up and camp on top of the main building. If you raise the outer wall could solve the problem (if you consider it one).

 

You may need to reconsider placing or re-ajusting the killbarriers behind the two bases. In games like CTF you can go oob all the way around/under the map (with a little bit of jetpack) and get to the other base, so you would only have to make it across the map once instead of twice. Otherwise solid map.