Let's go through the possible EMP field with a flying vehicle instead of on foot!

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  1. wi1lywonka

    wi1lywonka Ancient
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    On Tip of the Spear, why do we brazenly charge in through the EMP field? We knew it might have EMP capabilities, and most of us were shooting at it seeing shots bounce off/explode. And yet, the pilot/Jorge didn't decide, "That looks like it could be dangerous, let's land on that bluff down there and walk in"?

    Also, directly after you blow up the spire, you run and jump and barely make it to the Falcon. Two things: You had jetpack, and there is no reason to not go closer. It wasn't like the shields were going to reactivate.
     
  2. FlamingArmadillo

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    They went in through the shield, probably because they were too impatient lol.

    You jump into the falcon, because you have to get out of there really freakin fast because of the MAC blast coming in.
     
  3. COMMANDERMATT1

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    Do we care? Not really... Let's just put it this way, Even though you have jet pack and it would've been safer to just walk in and not get hurt of get someone killed, Halo Reach would've lost the epic factor in near death escapes and we all know how important near death escapes are in Halo. So, I would rather see some action packed crash then some simple "Hey, it a big covenant spire, let's walk in, instead of flying and play it safe." Or, "Don't worry, I can just fly to the falcon, you guys don't need to get any closer." You see, with both scenarios both sound pretty bland and loses the near death escape factor that just about every cut scene in Halo needs.


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  4. Nemihara

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    That's the problem. Reach included a lot of completely pointless, incredibly dangerous experiences for the sake of either shoving the plot forward or making it seem more exciting. Example: Jorge's ridiculously stupid death.
     
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    I agree with all of you. I don't have a real opinion about the Jet Pack stuff. Of course a epic jump is much cooler...

    EDIT: 117th post.
     
  6. Hokets

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    That bothered me, too. I understand that they wanted it to be more exciting, but diving into an EMP field was just stupid. Couldn't they have just rewritten it a little, to have the characters not know about the possible EMP. That scene would have made more sense that way. Oh, well.
    I didn't really see how that was stupid. At that point, the only way to destroy the Super Carrier and save Reach (or so he thought) was to stay behind and activate the bomb.
     
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  7. IH8YourGamerTag

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    obviously you don't understand the concept of jumping on a grenade.
     
  8. Hokets

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    Oh, you mean figuratively. And here I was wondering what grenade jumping had to do with any of this...
     
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  9. Security

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    Let's think of the drop shield. Bullets can't penetrate it and just bounce off, yet vehicles can just drive right through without any adverse effects. Perhaps the humans were thinking of this? And I'm pretty sure they didn't know it would cause an EMP effect, or else they wouldn't have gone in.


    And you don't always have a jetpack, I think there was a sprint there, too. And in the cutscene you don't even have a jetpack on your back.


    And as far as the deaths of the Noble team members go, Jorge's was probably the least stupid.
     
  10. Hokets

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    But they did know it was a possibility. Just before they went in, Auntie Dot informed them that, "latest intel suggests these spires may be projecting electromagnetic cloaking fields." Then they just kept going.
     
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  11. Security

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    It was their only option, though.
     
  12. wi1lywonka

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    Lol, same

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    Actually it wasn't. I looked at the level and there is a perfectly flat landing zone right at the base of the EMCS.
     
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  13. Security

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    I'm going to assume that they had a little hunch that it might cause an EMP, but the idea of by-passing all of the covenant defenses and just flying right up to the spire was too good of an opportunity to pass up.
     
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    Security77 that was exactly what i was going to say!
     
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    1: Might not have had Jetpack
    2: "MAC Rounds, In atmosphere?"
     
  16. wi1lywonka

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    Okay, so you may have not had a jetpack.

    Addressing 2; It takes 1 one second more to pull close enough for a safe extraction.
     
  17. MultiLockOn

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    If anyone's death was stupid, it was Kat's. Come now, she was mid sentence and someone flies by and shoots her once with a needle rifle and she drops dead? Now that was just silly. And it seems Reach has quite a bit of those ridiculous little things just to make it more dramatic.
     
  18. DavidJCobb

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    Why did the Falcon pilots fly through a suspected EMP field instead of entering on foot?

    Why did the Covenant only send small spacecraft to attack a structure as massive as Anchor 9, when a Frigate was present and fully capable of repelling the fighters?

    Why did the Covenant assassin snipe Kat but not anyone else?

    Why did Carter WTC the Scarab Tank when he could've just used the Pelican to help Six board it?

    Why did Emile completely ignore a red-armored Elite Zealot, when such hulking masses of hatred and creepy breathing sounds are generally very noticeable?

    Why did the Covenant sent large amounts of artillery- and aircraft-supported infantry to a completely barren and worthless part of the planet mid-glassing, just to eliminate one Spartan?

    Why did that Spartan -- Noble Six -- remain in that area instead of moving toward a more advantageous combat position?

    Simple.

    They did it for the lulz.

    Problem solved.
     
  19. EpicFishFingers

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    I have to agree that it was stupid. But maybe the pilot just went along with it because 1) Jorge outranks him, and 2) he could see Banshees flying in and out of it without any problems
    However, I don't understand why the falcon spins as it falls as of the sky after it loses all power. I doesn't have a tail rotor; it should really just fall like a rock.
    The jumping bit at the end: that reminds me of CoD 4. On the first level, you jump into the helicopter, and nearly die right then and there. But the ship doesn't immediately turn upright and sink right after you jump in. In fact, you never see if sink completely.
    I know he couldn't land, but he could have got a bit closer...
     
  20. wi1lywonka

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    It wasn't stupid, it was realistic.

    1. Six was to be transported, not fight; Carter was dying anyway
    2. He was concentrated on fighting off dropships, the Elite dropped directly from the drop ship onto Emile
    3. The Covenant knew something was up, something about broadcasting on open channels

    If anything, I'd be asking why they don't have remotely controlled/automated Mass Driver Cannons..

    It wasn't stupid, it was realistic.

    1. Six was to be transported, not fight; Carter was dying anyway
    2. He was concentrated on fighting off dropships, the Elite dropped directly from the drop ship onto Emile
    3. The Covenant knew something was up, something about broadcasting on open channels

    If anything, I'd be asking why they don't have remotely controlled/automated Mass Driver Cannons..
     

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