OK, a few simple rules first. Please take the time to read the posts, and not repeat the same sentence over and over again. If your one of those people who believes in "Human made Global Warming" without any evidence. Don't post here. Please no flaming, and always support your argument. You may have to provide a source if one is asked of you. Now to begin: I will not state all the reasons I believe "Human made Global Warming" (which I will shorten to HMGW) I will present most of them as they seem appropriate in the argument. So to start off "There is no proof that the current warming is caused by the rise of greenhouse gases from human activity. Ice core records from the past 650,000 years show that temperature increases have preceded—not resulted from—increases in CO2 by hundreds of years, suggesting that the warming of the oceans is an important source of the rise in atmospheric CO2. As the dominant greenhouse gas, water vapour is far, far more important than CO2. Dire predictions of future warming are based almost entirely on computer climate models, yet these models do not accurately understand the role or water vapor—and, in any case, water vapor is not within our control. Plus, computer models cannot account for the observed cooling of much of the past century (1940–75), nor for the observed patterns of warming—what we call the “fingerprints.†For example, the Antarctic is cooling while models predict warming. And where the models call for the middle atmosphere to warm faster than the surface, the observations show the exact opposite." -S. Fred Singer, (Atmospheric Physicist) What that basically states is that, not only is there insufficient data to suggest HMGW, the evidence actually rules against it, by showing that in the past CO2 has never influenced Climate Change. *Flame sheild*
yes, I did, now please only post if you have actual contributions to the thread, I specifically said no spamming.
From this graph, you see the steady increase in temperature in regards to every 2 decades. This pie chart shows the amount of Global Warming Gasses that the US produces and which is diverted where. This bar graph shows the differing temperatures in the long term trend. And this pie chart shows just exactly how much bullshit you'll eat up from me.
haha I like the last graph Nemi. 1st graph: It looks nice, but we all realize it shows a increase of .6 degrees in 180 years. and it had increases BEFORE the industrial revolution. Also there is no explanation for the 1940-1980 drop off. Cool graph, shitty science. 2nd graph: has nothing to do with this argument....yes we all realize that the U.S. produces a lot of CO2, what you don't yet realize is that it has no effect what-so-ever on Climate Change. 3rd graph: once again looks very nice, but look at the scale. The largest spike is .5 degrees, and it occurred in 1998. If HMGW was true it should have been in the late 1800 when the industrial revolution took place. but the graph doesn't show back that far. Why? becuase then you would see other fluctuations exactly like this one, before man had machine. 4th graph: I'm in the small sliver of green you can't see. Thanks for actually posting science Nemi =], or at least what appears to be science.
Ferretness, I just went to google images and loaded up a couple random Global Warming Graphs. I just bs-ed the entire thing.
I know, but people would have tried and used things like that so I figured i'de get it out of the way first.
My point of view on Global Warming is that if you can make a bunch of graphs and explain it, people will think you're amazing. And off-topic and spammy, but this is my 1337th post.
Wow, that was totally not flamey and vulgar. I mean, what, were you arguing with someone before this?
my entire life has been a war of me trying to stop eco hippies from killing our planet. So yes. sorry to come across so pissed
Hey if the ice caps melt doesnt that mean more water for us aussies. LOL Just Kidding. I have no strong opinion either way.
Haha, Raven, half your points don't even make sense. Like numbers 4, 6, 7, that thing at the end..., and 3. I'm siding with Nemi and all the (Fingerquotes!) "eco hippies".
Well personally I don't see much of a problem with the icecaps. Water expands when frozen so when it melts it wil decrease in volume. So, in actuality the ocean might go down an inch, a fricken inch. Also becuase of temperature flucation the icecaps would eventaully come back. I don't necessarily belive in global warming, but global whining. While the U.S. may be the largest producer of automobile emissions, the emissions are not necesarily the problem, cattle are. Annually cattle produce more harmful emissions than automobiles do. So, what can we do to solve this problem? Well, I think we should cut down on our meat consumption and use those resources that we feed to cattle and ship to impoverished countries. As far as the "energy crisis" goes, I think that corn based fuel production is one of the dumbest things that this nation has done. Recently there has been legislation passed that will force corn growers to save a certain percentage of corn to grow for fuel. This means that there will be a decrease in corn for food and cattle feed. That means that crop and meat prices will rise. Also the production of corn based fuels is just as harmful to the environment as drilling and refining oil. So instead of using that corn to send to other countries for starving people we are wasting it trying to make fuel.
Scientist: Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age Sunspot activity has not resumed up after hitting an 11-year low in March last year, raising fears that — far from warming — the globe is about to return to an Ice Age, says an Australian-American scientist. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352241,00.html