It has come to my attention, that the GnA is a slowly dying fish in a small pond. The Fall of the GnA. It seems that most people post here and give positive feedback, but is this really keeping our community alive? Some of you may not really know me but I am always here, I wait for something exciting to catch my eye, and I'll post. I am very close friends with Kidbomber and we have been discussing this for a while now, most people expect Kidbomber to fix and revive the forums all on his own. This is not right, we are a community, a close knit one at that. We all should be doing our part. Repetition. Things like this seem to happen here on Forgehub, when something wonderful happens, it slowly dies out. The same is happening to the Tester Guild, with activity steadily decreasing the Tester's Guild is now a shell of it's former self barely getting any posts. We can save the GnA, even though to some it seems like there's nothing too bad happening here, but if you stand at the sides and watch things go by you begin to notice trends. The GnA is dying, there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. We as this community need to be more active and ready to post even our worst projects here, for how can we improve on our flaws without feedback? Salvation, if you so choose it. Things around here need to go back to the way they used to, with frequent activity and friendly service, we retained one of these but both are required to continue. I myself am guilty of not posting all my art here, but with no feedback I actually feel inclined to do so. The average replies we get here are 5 per thread, this seems absolutely lack luster to me. It saddens me to see a lot our senior GnA members no longer posting, some have things going on at home and some have just flat out left. We the few older members miss you all, even you Har1. You all know who you are, perhaps the GnA will continue without you, maybe not. The thought that scares me is when Kidbomber told me, "The same happened to the TG, I addressed the problems and not one person took it to heart and they did they never did anything about it." Which is ominous as I do not wish this of the GnA, I love this place, its one of the main reasons I come to Forgehub. Hell it is the reason I come to Forgehub, I always have more than one tab dedicated to the GnA. Final thoughts. The time to act is upon us, we the few, the proud members of the GnA. With contests and prizes being handed out now, Kidbomber is not the only one trying to revitalize the forum. The main reason I am writing this is because of my friendship with Kidbomber and dedication to this sub-forum. We plan to overhaul a few things around here and try new things to get members active again. Even if we try we can't do this alone, each frequent visitor to the GnA is essential, even if something post something sub-par compared to someone else, we don't insult your abilities like in a few other sub-forums, instead we do our best to give positive feedback. I have changed just like all of you, for how long must we wait when we all know there's something wrong, we need to rescue our community and hopefully the GnA will be still alive. In short the GnA cannot survive without your help. If you have any thoughts please feel free to share them, every opinion matters.
well as long as this is out in the open i'd like to add that i think it's recockulous that most of the GnA members feel its necessary to be forcing flow and all these other techniques down new members throats like its the law. i think since this is a graphics and ARTS forum people should feel free to post what they want to with out being hassled for it. I've been fairly active in many other dedicated GnA sites and the community here is definitely the hardest on everyone. there isn't enough praise for people trying, and i believe thats a huge contributing factor to the falling empire of what used to be a supportive GnA community. Now im not saying my **** doesn't smell because theres been times where i could have gone a lot easier on people, but chose not to. Anyways im going to make a pledge to post more onto this site this was a good post -jeremy
Oh, I can make it active REALLY fast >=D Death is inevitable. People grow bored of everything after long periods of time, and eventually leave. They might try and help a little bit, and it will work, but they will exhaust themselves, and leave. Truth is, we just need new members. New inexperienced members will be awed by signatures, and maybe take it up, and the desire to learn will ignite their will. Thus, activeness. However, without surperiors, they don't a goal to beat.
i think we should start a campaign... make some siggys about inviting people to the GNA and invite members personally.
<3 just defy I know you're talking about me. XD (your 1st post) Nobodies forcing anyone. Grow up. Also, if you want traditional artists to post, then recruit more, so they don't feel flushed out with no one showing any interest. No one shows any interest in subjects they don't like.
nah I know you did do it in that last post... but its not just you. we all need to tone it down, lol. and its not so much forced as people are pressured into.. but yea anyways don't turn this into something about you... or a flame war for that matter. lets just stick on topic and address the problem... HOW CAN WE FIX THIS? more opinions on the matter could help.
Lol, this thread is so immature. You can't 'save' the GnA. It doesn't work like that. However, you're in luck because GnA is not actually dying. A lull in posting doesn't mean ****. If a little inactivity was a harbinger of death, than Forgehub itself would have died at least once during its lifetime. Just let things run their course and it'll all end up okay.
In other words, wait for Reach for the inevitable wave of forum noobs that found our site looking for forging tips. A few of them will probably become active in GnA
your missing the point whispy. the idea is to make the GnA more popular. justifying (or just defying) it as immature because he says that the forum is dying is hardly a reason to just brush the topic off the table. i personally would like to see more action in the forum, and thats also why im all for it.
What? What wars? And I'm not saying that if we all just leave the GnA and come back then everything will be fixed. What I'm saying is that we, like every other forum, follow a commonly shared posting pattern. Interest will ebb and flow, wax and wane. Inevitably, people will start posting more which will lead to others posting more. It's not something that can be forced. Neither is the creation of art, which would be the main way to make GnA active again. But what I'm trying to say is that we shouldn't force it. We should just ride it out, posting when our interest grabs us. Eventually activity will return. Also, by immature, I was not implying that the poster was young and stupid. What I was trying to say is that he was showing his naivete by thinking that inactivity is something that is both new to the internet and permanent.
Ergh. You obviously do not understand what I'm saying. Go back and read it again. You CAN'T force that type of activity. If you do, it may seem okay for a while but it DOES NOT LAST. There would be no genuine interest behind it.
sighs... ok if say those specific people are me frag man etc. and we start posting more ( like in your example ) this should lead to other people posting more ****. stupid contradiction and an active GnA forum is plenty enough to make people want to get into it.
Yes, I'm not saying that you posting more would be a bad thing. I've gotten a little bit sidetracked here from my main point which was that GnA is not dying.
We don't want the senior members help only we want all members of the GnA to help, there is a lack of superiority as you say Frag, the honest truth of the matter is the GnA will never die, as long as someone is willing to stand by it. Although the GnA most of us are comfortable with is deteriorating. Hell this simple thread is already doing its part, everyone but Whisper has agreed in some way, but even with Whisper posting in here he's contributing to the revival of our GnA that we enjoy. We're not trying to force anyone into anything all we (Kidbomber and I) did was ask for some help to make the GnA active again. Once again, no one is forcing anything on anyone else. Of course there is, that's why this thread was made, we wanted to get some initiative in the GnA again. This thread has already cause a stir in the GnA, which is what it's purpose was.
ok if you haven't clued in that the main point whispy, of all this is to help expand the GnA and its not just a statement as blatant as "the GnA is dying" then just go, also smile once in your life your .gif signature is depressing.
Whispy, we are trying to get more people, so that they post which leads others to post. A chain reaction doesn't start without a cause. YES THAT CAN COME WITH WAITING, BUT IT'S NOT ASSURED IT WILL HAPPEN.