Then please, instead of moaning, suggest something that you do like, maybe if other people like it, I will add it to the poll.
i like the name paladin. this looks like its gonna be a good map i want to see the outcome of this map
Blockout is the Lockout remake. and Lockout had ramps almost as steep as that but if not thrown at the right angle your *** would bounce in your face. This map should be like the best map every just by the looks of it, that and the fact your taking nades and everything in account when making it. One question will it have the same layout as lockout guardian you know 2 bases across from each other with side bases connected? I saw that pic on the first page of the basic layout but what you have thus far doesn't fit it lol if it did the top middle would be angled not straight with the bottom, or am i missing something? Oh well how ever you plan this out it should be nice. I just hope you do like guardian and lockout and the 2 opposite sides have a different look and feel. You know how blue and green, green is tree's and blue is an actual building. I love how that asymmetricalality (made up word lol) is put in a pretty Symmetrical map.
Dont worry nades go up and down the ramps fine. I may add something so they dont have too complicated callouts.
Whats not been done according to plan so far is the bottom mid is like a + and not slightly off centered as shown in the plan. Everything else is going as planned. The "base" sections that are coloured are made up of Snipe 2 to elbow and elbow to Green/blue section (on original guardian) so basically each base is located on elbow. BTW, I dont think these votes are going very fairly.. Cerberus was winnind by 7 votes at the start, and then all of a sudden Paladin takes the lead and no one has commented on the actual names or commented on the topic at all... I smell a Rat >:[
Just because it's the better name doesn't mean there's a rat ;] Either way, I don't think either are a good name for a map. I hope it isn't too close to Guardian, it almost seems to be copied. It'd be quite disappointing if it were to just be Sniper/Green replicated. Anyways, good luck.
Initially, that was the idea. But i thought with it being too like guardian, people would compare its gameplay too much and find ridiculous faults with it not being an original map. Thats where i came up with the idea of the extra two hills, because it changes the guardian remake, into guardian with some extra objective bits, which will change gameplay. Then comes the overpasses, which allow extra height to gameplay, and better all round access for getting around the map. This removes guardians initial fault of MLG players camping with the sniper, at sniper tower. That was really the part what made guardian unfair. Now players have four routes of access, but these routes all come from different angles and heights. Finally the idea B3NW came up with, Snipe 4. This is the most elevated part of the map which can oversee the Overpasses. Considering this will be open and in plain view of most maps, it will provide a difficult spot to camp at, and above all. Both sides of the map have it. Making it balanced from both sides. This allows the gameplay to be solely about the players who play the map, not about where you spawn and what you start with. Oh yeah and about the name: I was just kidding with the RAT bit lol... im just gutted not many people liked Cerberus. I actually thought it was a really good and relevant name
WOOP PALADIN Yeah the walkway things may happen but with the way the budget and items are going it will most likely be mancannons & Man cannons keep the theme of the original map!
@ Name Discussion: I like Paladin better, the map (or at least the middle) is similar to Guardian, an the Name Paladin is somehow similar to Guardian (i think ^^) so i think Paladin would fit better. On the other Hand Cerberus would fit nice to, since its Hells Guardian ^^. Anyways i like paladin better, it just reminds me of guardian ^^
Nah uh... man cannons arent good man. Theyre too unpredictable and I dont know of any MLG maps using mancannons. Also.. Try not to base the whole map on what guardian does, or is like. Remember its getting removed from MLG? You dont want to make a remake of it, because it wont be considered as a MLG playable map. We should really stick to the plan / layout.
WOOP Paladin won I know mancannons arent reliable, but their a last cause if we do prematurly run out of Budget or hit the OLN. I know how we could make them launch much clearer, using titled walls either side. Lemme explain. This is a veiw from above. / & \ = wall (Note that is the actual dirction they face.) ll = Mancannon. /ll\ The walls overlap the man cannon and the end of them is just a bit wider than the spartan. Behind veiw. / & \ = wall _ = Mancannon /_\ So put the bottom and top image together and its a slick funnel that makes sure they dont come from the side & when they go through it launches smoothly.
The map itself is turning impressive, as I'm sure a symmetrical Guardian is sought by all Guardian fans. But as far as the name goes, I think that if it was named Paladin, to be decorated with blue aesthetic lights. If it was named Cerberus, to be decorated with red aesthetic lights. There could actually be two versions. But in my opinion, the name should be neither, because it should be a synonym to Guardian, such as "Sentinel" (not in relation to the forerunner technology) or something of the likes.
Paladin is a synonym? Thanks for the lighting suggestion, but the lights are going to show the bases. BTW new screenies being uploaded right now!
Do you use ghost merging or are you doing it the oldschool way? to the new screenshot(s), you posted the s1 picture twice
looking good man, i have an uber nice map idea i sent it to steve. Like i told him i know ya'll got a map idea and layout done but what i proposed or have concocted up in my mind would be a freakin sweet map.
Ohh god, Ghost merging all the way. I think absolutley every item on the map is ghost merged, except 4 items in the top mid. Mind sharing? Id like to have a look. Could be a new project once the map is done.
I suppose you should research the names a little more before commenting lol. A paladin was (as far as i know) a type of guardian knight. Cerberus is part of Ancient Greek Mythology representing the Guardian of Hell.. Often known as a three headed dog (a lot like the animal Hagrid owns in one of the harry potter films LOL) I didnt really understand the map concept Captn stated, but without a show of planning I'm not overly sure how it would work. He stated merging guardian with lockout but in my eyes, it wouldnt work with gameplay.
1. I agree. 2. Yeah im going to have a look at it now, hes made a thread. & Im probally not going to be forging untill next friday, I havnt had time to do it today, I wont tommorrow night most likely and thursday is bonfire night so ill be out. Just thought id let you know for people following this thread.