Debate Incest - Right or Wrong?

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  1. Dreaddraco2

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    Do you believe that if two family members really love each other, they should be able to have sexual relations?
     
  2. Matty

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    How you feel about your sister is none of my business.
     
  3. rusty eagle

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    If all the monarchs did it then sure! That's right England, you were the original hillbillies!
     
  4. Dreaddraco2

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    Did you know, in Ancient Egypt (as far back as about 6 thousand years) Pharaohs would become fathers through incest, something to do with 'pure' royal blood.
     
  5. Eyeless Sid

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    I have already stated in multiple threads that I am totally against incest. Why well it is wrong because it not only messes the children up born in the family it also genectically messes them up . Theres a family in my general area that is widely known as incest and they are all messed up in the head and can't even take care of them selves because they are not right in the head. The police and firedepartment are always at there house for assault charges and just helping them with general hygen issues. The family has been moved around many houses and their old ones have been condemed because of how they live in them . They once had a dog die in the house and only after neighbors called the cops did they remove the decomposing body. In short incest will mess a person up and make them a problem and eye sore to society.

    As for egyption royalty did you notice that it died off it wasn't dirrectly from bad habits such as incest but it didn't help.
     
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  6. Dreaddraco2

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    I'm pretty sure not all incest is based on getting someone pregnant.
     
  7. Dow

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    IMO, there is nothing wrong with wincest, as long as nobody gets pregnant.
     
  8. Pigglez

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    Not to say I am for incest, I don't totally care, but I think that doesn't really prove anything. You can't prove that family is messed up because of incest. That's sort of implying that any family with problems has those problems from incest, and that's not true. You might as well have said that I am a bad person because my hair is brown. Could there be a relation? Yea... but what you said didn't prove so.
     
  9. SmokinWaffle

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    I agree, love is blind IMO, if it's a family member then that's just life bro.
     
  10. Eyeless Sid

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    The family has lived in this area for many generations and before they started or were found out to be incest they were pretty normal but the generation after the first [yes they interbreed] the kids are all messed up mentally and genetically and they still are and its the 3rd generation. From what Ives seen its messed up their young's life from the start and has had no positive effects on them. They are shunned by our society as out casts and they really are. We basically feel bad for them because it started with one sick bastard who messed them all up.
     
  11. SmokinWaffle

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    Yeah, society has a very negative view on incest, as I said it's ok without any pregnancy, I think that's sorta selfish really.

    But not socially acceptable.
     
  12. Pigglez

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    But I'm saying, even if that's true, has it been proved on a large scale in many experiments and through research that for the most part, families that interbreed are mentally messed up? One family doesn't necessarily represent the population.
     
  13. Eyeless Sid

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    Have you met a second generation of incest ? they aren't normal. Ive met a few members of the family Im describing and they are messed up. My mother happens to be a nurse and there's another family similar to the one Ive encountered also messed up. I think the incest happens to be more than a coincidence in why the family is screwed up.Have you ever met a family of incest that was normal and not mentally messed up? heres some diseases likely to happen to incest children
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_genetic_diseases_come_from_incest

    Double click on the sentence to get full disease explanation.

    How is it ok without pregnancy its considered sexual abuse? If a child is raised in incest and is not the age of consent than it should be considered rape if they have sex with an adult or older sibling. So rape is ok as long as there's no baby? come on.
     
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  14. Dreaddraco2

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    What if it's the younger person who wants it?
    Also, how is it rape or abuse?
    Additionally, it's still not likely for them to catch those diseases.

    The fact that the majority of the community have your views on incest is probably the reason that family's might be messed up.
    And what do you mean "Raised in incest"?
     
  15. Eyeless Sid

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    Its rape and abuse none the less if an older person has sex with a younger underage person. That is the law. Also incest is family based and you are raised by the family so you are being raised in the condition that you think incest is ok.[same thing happens with religion] If your parents teach you something from a young age than you will believe them and probably continue to do it to your kids. Thats how abuse gos incest is considered abuse and it usually continues to happen through the family until the cycle is broken. A child that has been beaten or raped by an adult is more likely to do it to another child and thus the cycle continues. Alcoholism and drug problems are another thing that can be passed down in a family genetically and mentally. Incest happens to be one of the most taboo of them but its a form of abuse none the less. The reason they are messed up has nothing to do with them not being liked it has to do with the abuse and or sleeping with your family. Incest brings a person from the norm and then we call them messed up because they function differently from us.
    Incest is wrong morally and legally and is looked down upon for a reason.
     
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    It's not abuse/rape of the younger person if it's the idea of the younger person >.>.
    And from a young age the majority of people are taught it's wrong by socialising, are you saying that's why most people think it's wrong?
    And why are you associating beating and rape with incest? Incest isn't like how the news show paedophilia. Alot of Incest is caused because someone in the family loves another member of the family.
    You're also assuming that people who commit incest forcibly rape their children.
     
  17. Donii

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    If a 45 year old man, has sex with a 10 year old girl, Even though the Child wanted it,Its legally declared rape.
     
  18. Eyeless Sid

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    EVEN if its the idea of the younger person its considered rape or molestation. Have you heard of any of the cases where a teacher had sex with a student. It was the students idea or the teachers and it was considered rape. Why is incest similar to rape you ask well this is how it gos, parents teach you its ok you do it because you don't know any better. This is basically brainwashing to and if you sleep with an underaged kid its ALWAYS WRONG.

    http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm

    http://www.avert.org/teens-sex-law.htm

    Its the law that underage kids are not allowed to have sex with an older person if it happens the older person will be punished and convicted as a sex offender.

    sexual victimization of any age group is wrong and victims of incest get it usually from birth. It is wrong by law and by social standards.
    http://www.jaapl.org/cgi/content/full/33/2/223
     
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  19. SmokinWaffle

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    No, that's called underage sex my friend, not rape.
     
  20. Eyeless Sid

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    Which is considered a sex crime or rape and the older participant is listed as sex offender.

    http://www.jaapl.org/cgi/content/full/33/2/223
    Read the article it doesn't matter if you want it if your to young its against the law.
     

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