Foundry Judgement on The Asylum

the map looks really good, im not going to lie, but it looks confusing LOOKING AT THE SCREENSHOTS, but it probally makes more sense during gameplay. an overview might help understand the idea.

 

I was happy to make a v2 gametype to be released by this map. The zombies can actually be killed from the field explosives now in one hit.

As for the map, this is a must have for fans of the Last Day. It has a different feel to it than the original map, however, because this is more of a close quarters map rather than a more widespread version like my map.

There are also a lot more rooms in this one, as well as more ways to camp too... Not only that, but his windows work everytime too... (of course you can't shoot out of them, but that's not a big deal)

You may be a little confused at first by its confinement, but after the first few rounds you'll pick up the pace and learn how to get around the map.

Overall, great job man. The map turned out very well and it definately adds a twist to the Judgement gametype.

Edit: I got exterminator from this post! Woot! This thread has proven good results already!

 

i love this map! it in my terms one of the greatest maps on foundary! thanks for making it. in a v2 make it alittle less confusing.

 

WTFBBQ? A foundry map?

I remember you asking about this on the op of last day, This looks great. How did you get there to be a clean 50% in each room? Isn't the map susspose to get harder over time? When the first barrier opens, it gets 2x easier. I would suggest that happening near the end, With a switch that the humans have to activate themselves. That opens at 120

 

this look like a pretty good map i was also trying to do the same thing but on the other map and on sandbox but i got a little bored of that this map looks pretty well made and ill go and check it out and see ho close it looks like to the real map 4.5/5

 

Wow, after so much work and testing, I can't believe this is up. It has been a long while, searching for updates on the map, changing my schedule just to help test, all that good stuff. But in the end, I know it was worth it. I was here through most of it, watching silently and determining your Judgement.

I can't say I was always here for the Judgement maps. When I first found the Last Day thread I was just a guest at the time and it was only an idea. I kinda forgot forgehub for 2 months, came back, found the thread reborn, and remembered my password for my account so I came back. The Last Day was released about 2 weeks later and I was there for most of that. I must say, it is going to be hard to come close to that map, and even harder to beat it. This map does manage to come that close, and does Judgement honors. If only more people on my friends list would play halo customs...

Then I found this, the Judgement add-on. This was really just in early development, and I did support this most of the way. At first, I must admit, it looked really sloppy, no random weapon box, no roof, no weapons on walls, barely any true features, it was really early in development. So, I waited and checked the thread regularly for updates. Soon there were more pics, better aesthetics, features, it looked like... well, Judgement. I decided to give this more support and started talking about Judgement in certain threads that just needed to hear about this, within forgehub laws that is. Finally testing came. You listened to ideas, fixed them, tested again, fixed more problems, and here we are now, a nearly perfected map. Grand job, I say, this is just great.

Now onto the map: I see that some of the bumps were fixed, and that is pleasing, the random weapons box is neater, weapons on wall, no more warthogs out of bounds for people to mess around on, much much better. In the last test I could only play for a bit before having to go, but I played this again with friends when you sent me the finished product and I was much happier. Great aesthetics, **** zombi-- no sorry, Judgement feel, and just fun overall. This is needed along with the Last Day, in EVERYONE's halo 3 map library, no other way to put it. And another good thing, you guys are using Foundry still, while many would just give up and go to Sandbox. Kudos to you, sticking with this. One new map doesn't mean it is the best for some things, and for these I agree. Great map, after playing so many times and testing for most of them and seeing its progress through the whole development, I just must give this a 5/5. Some people might beg to differ, but I saw the development, I saw this map at the beginning and it has changed for the better. My choice is final when I say 5/5 so there you have it forgehub.

BTW, thanks for mentioning me in the thanks section. I didn't do much but test and support, but your welcome anyway. It has been my pleasure working with Judgement creators.

 

Wow that looks like one hell of a map. It reminds me of the Last Day. I like the name and I like the rooms. The idea is great, the weapon box is great, and I just like it overall. I agree, it would be nice to be able to shoot out windows but it's not a big deal like Master Debayter said. However, I do recommend geomerging that fence wall on the right side in that fourth pic from the bottom just to make it smoother and look like you spent more time making it perfect. Still, I love the map.

I also want to ask you a question. I made a **** Zombie map a while ago and it turned out horribly, but that was when I was still a beginning forger. I was wondering if you'd be interested in making an incredible one on sandbox with me. Although, you just finished this, so I'm not expecting you to. Thanks for the great map and the hard work.

 

It looks like a VERY well forged map, it close combat oriented layout will make some very intense gameplay, the only downfall is that it is not as accurate remake as Debayters, I know its of Verruckt and I think whats missing is the size of it and the full connectivity.
Like I said its incredibly well forged, and looks good, although the teleports are confusing.
The gametype works well with it, but I think the map could do with tweaks in places, maybe Sandbox would be a better choice for a V2?
-K-

 

Originality - I've never played COD5, so I'm not familiar with what this map is supposed to resemble. To me it looks like a 2 story house on Foundry using the same window concept as The Last Day... so overall not very original. Then again you can't be very original on Foundry anymore.

Aesthetics - Merging is well done, as expected.

Game play - I'm a big fan of Judgement on The Last Day. The reason why I believe it was so successful was because of the simplicity of the rooms. Big room with a couple of windows and a couple of weapons, timed door opening, new big room with a couple of weapons, timed stairwells, final big room with a couple of weapons. This map is a lot more confusing to navigate. The new teleport system kinda sucks. If you're the zombie and go through a teleporter, you're stuck entering the window you're teleported to... or that's how it seemed to me. There's less chance of coordinating a single precision planned attack since you can't choose which window you will enter.

Improvements - First thing is the teleporter system. I prefer the open area that you can walk to a window you choose, not get forced to a window by the random teleporter.

Barrels holding in the mongooses wasn't a great idea either. Suppose a zombie drives the mongoose away from the window... it screws the next person forced to enter that window. A human may also be able to throw the trip mine under there and blow the mongoose away from the wall, keeping zombies from being able to enter there.

I kinda found the layout a little confusing as well, but I guess after playing it a few times you'll get used to it.

 

Guys, just so you know, this isn't a remake of Verruckt like most of you think. This was designed as a completely original design that was strictly made to play well with the Judgement gametype. It does just that.

 

i played this map with master debayter and i find it really good. slightly annoying when you cant get on some of the mongeese but still good.

i'll rate 5/5

 

WOW! This map looks incredible. Everything about it looks clean and well forged. It does look a bit cramped and confusing but im sure it will be fine during gameplay.
At the moment I won't download it but only because I can't and am out of free slots, but as soon as i delete some stuff I will be sure to download it.
This map extremely fun to play so I'll give it a 5/5.

 

Whether this map played well with Judgement, that's a matter of opinion. The new door system is too confusing for some people. The doors are not uniform. Some are doors, some are signs. The learning curve on this map is a bit much. Humans also spawn in separate sections of the building. This totally sucks for zombies stuck in the other section. They all now need to wait until the door opens up. Some crates also respawn blocking off some areas upstairs. Not sure if that was intentional, but when zombies are stuck in areas and can't get to anyone, they lose interest and quit. I downloaded it and played it a few rounds. Gameplay is nowhere near as fun on this map. This one's coming off my hard drive.

I really wish people would stop rating in their posts. All they do is lose credibility when they rate maps blindly. Especially when they say they can't download a map and then give a rating of 5/5. This makes rating seem more like it's about popularity than it is about the actual map. Too many people rating 5/5 when majority of the maps here don't deserve that kind of rating. I especially love it when people say a map is good or point out one thing wrong, then give it a 5/5.

Edit: I just went through it with a forge session and noticed that humans can escape the map, which they can then go through the teleporter and get outside the map out of bounds... where there is a mongoose, deployable shield, needler, carbine, mauler, and sentinel beam... and yes, my gravity was set at 200%.

 

Okay, you just contradicted yourself. Gameplay is not the same. There is a difference between 100% of the humans being together and 50% of the humans being together. They may be somewhat similar on a smaller scale, but definitely not the same. Take a football offensive team and split them in half and try to convince me that things will be the same. An offense without a QB or a QB without a wide receiver, will definitely not play similar.

I also never said the map sucked. I think it's decently forged, but there are some issues and some things that are not clearly explained.

I think you didn't update your map in your fileshare because...

Crate issue...

The mancannons appear and constantly push this crate closed. My question was, is this supposed to open up as well after 60 seconds? If so, it's not doing it. The mancannons are closing it.

You claim that I did not read your post, but you mention no crates. I know that trash dumpster are "supposed" to be moveable after 60 seconds according to your OP... but I see a mancannon by that crate and can't help but wonder if it's supposed to get sucked between the fences and open up as well. Why even bother with a mancannon if it's just supposed to stay shut? You could have just closed that off with the wall you interlocked with the box.

Trash dumpster issue...

How is a mancannon supposed to move two dumpsters after 60 seconds when a fence wall is in the way? Is there some kind of setting that makes fence walls disappear after 60 seconds as well? If so, please share your secret.

Escape from the map...
I won't post an image so all the n00bs exploit this, but on the 2nd floor, there is a door entrance using a door ( not a sign ). Knock over a barrel, jump on it, jump on the bridge, jump on the door, jump on the box and you're out of the map and heading for the teleporter leading to outside the map that I mentioned in my last post... or spawn killing zombies. You could also essentially jump on someone's head and get through a window panel as well.

Teleporter issue in my first post...
I must've entered the same teleporter every time because I kept teleporting to the same spot with the boxed in door every time. After going into forge mode, I now see the different teleporters in the open area and retract my statement about needing the open area. The teleporter system is still a little complex and will definitely take a while to figure it out completely.

Doors and signs issue...
I still believe that it is an issue. Yes, some people can use their brains... but you also have to realize that infection is very popular to very young kids, too. Sometimes everyone that knows the system may be humans, thus leaving us unable to talk to the zombies that don't know what's going on. If I hadn't already played The Last Day, I would be lost on your map. To me, it would look all closed off with no way in... except maybe jumping on a zombie's head and trying to get in over a door.

The use of the mongooses on The Last Day made sense. It was to simulate a zombie crawling in through a window, which somewhat did look like a window... but what is your use of mongooses supposed to simulate? Hopping in through a closed window? Crawling in over a door?

Mongoose issue in my previous post...
It appears that you are right and the mongooses are pretty snug between those boxes. It would most likely take more time than the game would last to knock that mongoose out of there.

I apologize if my posting on your map seems negative, but unlike everyone else here... I'm actually taking the time to try to help you out. People going along with others and not really paying attention doesn't help you out.

This post proves how few people actually take the time to look at maps and just blow smoke up people's arses. Nobody that gave 5/5 scores actually took the time to download the map and see any of the possible issues. They just blindly gave 5/5 scores because of who the person was. This is a perfect example of a failed rating system and the idiots that post here. People should just refrain from rating maps because anything you all say is pretty much untrustworthy at this point.