Guide? In what way did god actually guide evolution? Are you saying there was some sort of intervention on god's part? Does god guide the process of the water cycle? Does he play a role in making sure that water evaporates, forms clouds, and rains back down to the Earth? Or.....is this a natural process that requires no from of intelligence at all to take place?
GOD guided US through evolution? Us implying what? Christians? Judiaism and Islamic Religion pre-date Christianity and the Earth was formed 5000 billion years before modern Humans even evolved. Your statement has no reasoning, is completely false, and frankly, quite stupid. Christians have a problem of not even considering other religions or people who don't believe in there God as even people as what you just implied. Did God guide Synapsids through evolution into Mammals and then into Humans? No not at all. Did God make the natural forming of Ozone? No the Earth did by way of Volcanoes.
excuse me but wtf r u doing? He thinks that God placed the first life on Earth and then guided all life through the evolution process, there is nothing to rant about you idiot. By 'us' he means humans.
by 'Humans' do you mean the people that have been around for about 3.2 million years out of the 5000 Billion years the Earth has been around? and not even until 2000 years ago came up with the Idea of Christianity?
Please get out of this thread... First of all, humans haven't existed for 3.2 million years. More around the number of 40,000... second, the earth is thought to be 4.6 billion years old. Not 5000 billion. And even AFTER Hotpokkaminny said you were wrong and explained that he was just talking about humans as a species, not as religious groups, you went and said that... So please refrain from talking if you are going to ignore when others try to explain things to you.
My mistake I meant 5000 million and also Hominids, modern humans, HAVE existed for 3.2 million years. **** sapiens have existed for that time you said. And also that still supports my point that Christianity has only existed for a couple thousand years, so how could the Christian God you speak of have 'guided us through evolution' if nobody even believed Christianity. _________________________________________________________________ Yes, assuming evolution, but people who believe creation assume a lot more since evolution has a lot more solid evidence. Everything anyone knows, is assumed, because no one can prove or disprove anything, they can just give stronger evidence of one or another.
But the clock needs to be built a specific way. Nature isn't built a specific way; all that exists, exists because it is suited to the environment. You don't need a gardener to grow plants in the wild. They grow on their own, and they can survive because they have adapted. Eh, I kinda explained that bad, but I think you get what I'm saying.
Some, bright evolutionist, please answer this for me. Don't give me crap. Provide an example of a genetic mutation or an evolutionary process which can be seen to increase the information in the genome.
Seeing that the age of humanity in creationism is being brought up, I am going to be the one to spark some bitchin' controversy! According to the dates it the Bible, Adam and Eve were created about 6000 years ago. However the rest of the universe is anyone's guess. It clearly states that God brought about the total creation of the Earth in 7 days. It also states a day to God is like a thousand years. And for the age of the dinosaurs, remember, carbon-dating only records the age of the minerals that have replaced the bones, no more bones exist. There are no true dinosaur bones left. Unfamiliar with this process? Read about it in a book somewhere.
Mutations happen all the time, example being the famous observations of Darwin's trips around the world. Look them up, really not hard to find. And now that we are talking smart about genomes and stuff, tell me this Evolutionists (only answer if you comprehend): -How can a variety of animals evolve from single cells, surely there is no hidden plan within the body somewhere telling the animal to grow wigs and fly. One mutation cannot bring about flight. These things had to be written somewhere within the organism to slowly grow over the generations, if at all possible. Not disproving Evolution, I am only questioning it. -Also, previous paragraph aside, why did only one intelligent life form evolve? And you know what I mean by intelligent, "capable of human thinking," or at the very least something similar to it.
Genesis 1:1-2 In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters. Please read the Bible over again, I know what I am talking about.
You're proving yourself wrong. I don't mean to disrespect, but I've got years of Bible experience and I can throw verse after verse at you. I don't think you'd like that, especially considering you said you don't really want to debate. May I ask the point of posting here then? The earth being the first thing God speaks about, even goes further to prove my point he could've created the earth on the first day. God rested on the 7th day, he didn't create. I encourage you to read your Bible over again. .. this pertains to what exactly? It doesn't answer my question.
Haha if I'm right here in what I'm thinking right now, you are telling me I made a mistake when I said the Earth was created in 7 days. Good catch, I always make that mistake... And while I quickly skimmed over your post, I missed the six-days thing already there, but what I claimed was that your post mentioned entire universe. The bible just mentions the Earth, not universe. Even if it could say universe, it would say everything, but last I checked it didn't say God created everything in 6 days. Now that I think about it, that whole "please read your bible again" thing I said may have come as offensive, sorry if it did haha. And for the edit: I'm talking about the small scale evolution he observed on the Galapagos Islands, which includes harder beaks, longer turtle necks, etc. I don't believe in large scale evolution, which includes things like new limbs. Actually, going back to think about it, this may not pertain to your question... Sorry I'm tired right now, I only get several hours of sleep every night, nuff' siad...
1: If you are interested in how certain things evolved, like flight or the eye, I suggest you read Climbing Mount Improbable, by Richard Dawkins. It focuses on the central misconceptions people have about evolution and how they actually occurred. Flight, I believe, started out as something very simple. You need to start out by remembering that volume and surface area do not grow at the same rate: 1 Meter Cube - Ratio of 6:1 6 meter surface area 1 meter volume 2 Meter Cube - Ratio of 3:1 24 meter surface area 8 meter volume 10 meter cube - Ratio of 6:10 600 meter surface area 1000 meter volume From this, we can assume that the larger an object gets, the heaver it is per square meter of surface area. This means that while a bird must have large wings to increase it's surface area enough to maintain flight, microorganisms would need nothing but bumps. The first flight could have been very simple- organisms that depended on the wind to carry them , and eventually they would have developed larger and larger bumps, growing larger in volume at the same time. This really isn't a great explanation, though. You should read up on it somewhere else if you don't get it.
Thanks, I thought about that quickly after I posted what I said, this makes sense. It's just after I see these dinsosaur-to-feathered dinosaur pictures I go crazy... I'll try to check out that book, and now I just need the second question answered.
Who's to say other life forms just aren't evolved as much as we? Other animals communicate in ways, we may have just been more knowledge handy and I assume our functionality soared through the roof faster. However, I have an interesting question for whoever can answer. If this is true, that humans are more evolved than animals (that's why they have sentience amirite) then why are other animals who are much older than humans not having sentience?
You didn't need too be as intelligent as a human when they were evolving about 100,000 - 200,000 years ago too survive back then. Humans get killed all the time. Take the diseases of black death for example, those two diseases were among the stupidest of species. They killed 1/4 of Europe in a couple of years. Also, too answer your question, they haven't evolved it yet, probably because it would have been a waste of energy and more clever animals would run out of energy. Sentience isn't that important back then. Evolution doesn't just happen and instantly grow something good on an animal. It takes AGES too happen. Slight mistakes in DNA alter the animal. If it is a good adaption, it is more likely too survive and breed, otherwise it's more likely too die out. E.g. Most of the dinosaurs couldn't adapt too survive the mass-exstinction 65 million years ago, but crocodiles could, because they needed too be able too take heat and slight changes in amosphere.