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  1. Camel Carcass

    Camel Carcass Ancient
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    Peak Oil: LATOC

    Alright, read this article. It'll take you about two hours, five if you're a slow reader, but seriously, read this and you will pretty much **** bricks.

    I know it's tiresome reading links, and that it'll waste your time, but it's worth it. Your time is nothing compared to the issue here. Just read it thoroughly, and then panic.

    Also, discuss.

    Peak Oil: Life After the Oil Crash
     
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  2. whiizzle

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    i thought that this was a religous debate...my apologies

    well i think that all this is nothing to panic about, just keep calm and dont tell us that any of this is happening. we dont need oil to fuel our society, there are other forms of energy and still things to discover.
     
  3. RadiantRain

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    Ha, ha... I also thought this was going to be another Religious debate.

    It's true, oil is currently our only primary source of energy, but we already have electric cars, we also have wind power, why not fully utilize these instruments to better our world.

    The answer is because of Greed, we are currently living in a world where Gold is everything and even more then God... sadly... oil is expensive and cheaper to acquire most governments do not want to waste money and would much rather sell oil to better themselves with that... But they do not see that we will be wiped off the planet over money. Thus meaning that money is worth more then humans.

    We will need strong changes, Oil is not a new fashion anymore, and I'm glad that Oil reserves will be wiped out, we need to change Green, either by force our by our decision. Sadly Mother Nature has a cruel and sinister way of getting us back in line by force...

    But that does not mean the End of the planet, plants will still grow, and the Ozone will take hundreds of years to naturally renew itself, the only difference will be is that we will not be there to see the planet renew itself...

    If we as a species are to survive we need to further develop our minds, and stop thinking Gold, and start thinking green.
     
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  4. makisupa007

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    Peak Oil

    First, I think you should change the name of this debate to Peak Oil. Yes the article is frightening and does inspire your current title phrase, but Peak Oil is something that should be debated here, especially after seeing some of the outlooks in the overpopulation thread.

    The article you linked to was chilling, thorough, and well sourced. Even without all of the evidence pointing to a imminent crisis, logic should tell us that the production of oil will peak even if it hasn't already. In a nearly closed system like the Earth, no matter how much there is of any given resource, I think we can all agree that the supply is not infinite and in the case of oil can not be replenished more quickly than the rate of consumption. This means that we will run out. It's not a matter of if we will run out, but when. Hopefully we have a little time, because we are not ready for this. Technology has saved us in the past and I'm confident that there are solutions for this problem. The massive initiatives for research into "green" technologies implemented by Obama are a start, but only a scratch on the surface. Unless we develop new technology that will move us toward sustainable resources we will face this dead end. Right now our understanding and capabilities with alternatives to oil can't even come close to the amount of energy we need on a daily basis. People continue to be born at a higher rate than people are dieing causing our population to grow exponentially. Whether it happens in 20 years or whether we are in the beginning phases now, we will have to come up with alternatives to oil because it just won't last forever.
     
  5. Pigglez

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    Lol the funny thing is I did a report on this topic a year back or so, and used this exact post as one of my sources. Funny XD

    Anyway, thats why alternative fuels need to be created and made cheap fast.

    Also... is this really a debate? Whats to debate, if we think oil will actually run out or not? ....
     
  6. Nitrous

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    It's funny cause they think peak oil production was reached in 2008 (it was actually 1988 (i believe)).

    Peak oil production doesn't mean anything for the availability of it, though (at its current level).
     
  7. CaptnSTFU

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    Why would you panic, Oil is a renewable resource science has proved it. Current drilling tactics only get like 30% of all oil in a well, new techniques are helping extract more and more oil every day. This is nothing new, just people exploiting one view of where we are headed in the world.
     
  8. Dreaddraco2

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    Who cares?
    We've got nuclear power (fusion AND fission).
    And are well on the way too make an artificial star (Extremely small though) too make massive amounts of energy.
     
  9. whiizzle

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    wow!!!we can make a star...where would we put it?
     
  10. Dreaddraco2

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    1. To move it, we would need too move half of the labatory.
    2. It's too small too see.
    3. Right now it costs more energy making the star.
    4. We don't "Put it" it's a ball of constantly-exploding fire running on nuclear fusion. What idiot would even touch it?
     
  11. whiizzle

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    Your hand would melt from 1 cm away.
     
  13. makisupa007

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    Source

    Source material on this star we've created and it's ability to provide energy sufficient to replace fossil fuels please.
     
  14. Dreaddraco2

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    It was on a documentary that I can't remember the name of.
     
  15. Camel Carcass

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    Anyway, on topic - If the government did have enough resources & tax payer's money to put into launching a star, it would seem a bit pointless. I think that the government would have better things to do with the remaining oil resources than launch a star.

    So, on topic?
    What is your plan for when the economy collapses?
    I know there's a prepare page on the LATOC website, but what's your plan?
     
  16. Dreaddraco2

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    What do you mean "Launch a star" they just use heat/fusion too create a star, they don't move it.
     
  17. Camel Carcass

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    Okay, well, why?
     
  18. Nemihara

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    The reason we don't use more electric cars, wind power, and other alternative energy sources is because although the sun has almost limitless energy yield, it takes time to produce the same amount of energy as 1 gallon of gasoline. Gasoline is basically condensed energy, although you should never use that term around a chemistry teacher. It would take a 220-cell 375 lb. 8.8 kW lith-ion battery the size of an engine block to have a car travel as far as it would on one gallon of gasoline. The technology for alternative energy is definitely there; but it's like buying a SSD with the capacity of 512 GB for $1,500, versus just buying a HDD with 500 GB for only $54. The SSD is cool, novel, and has many benefits over the HDD, such as shock resistance, lower power consumption, and faster read/write speeds, but it's not even close to being as cheap.
     
  19. Camel Carcass

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    I don't even know what an SSD is.
    I fail'd.
     
  20. Indie Anthias

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    Here's a thought to ponder:

    We'll never run out of oil because no one will be rich enough to buy the last gallon.
     

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