Debate Creation or Evolution?

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  1. stickmanmeyhem

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    What is the nature of the medical condition? The nature of this condition is as unexpected, and unpredictable as birth problems. Nobody knows. And, apes still have these conditions today, and the bones are the exact same. That's what your pretty little science teachers don't tell you.
    I did, and the proof supports it. Face it. You're wrong.
     
  2. P3P5I

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    Where's your proof of this? You say neanderthals did not exist, but that does not in any way make it true. You can't just say something and think people will accept it as truth. I will give proof to your BS theory on the history of prehistoric man Here. Don't state facts without any backup evidence, this is a respected community. If you want to argue for creationism, argue intelligently, for there are many arguments for this side.
     
  3. EonsAgo

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    Please enlighten us with a source. I would love to learn how I've been living a lie.
     
  4. stickmanmeyhem

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    Okay, I will go out to the car and get my backpack. I will pull out my science and CP binders, and I will get the proof. I'm not being sarcastic. I'm telling the truth. It may take me an hour or so to type out the evidence though... There's too much...
     
  5. Pigglez

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    I find it remarkable you seem to have all of these facts and all of this evidence about creationism... and yet it makes it the most darnedest thing to think with all this evidence, creationism hasn't been proven yet...

    But hey, go get your books and I'll be proven wrong.
     
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    And neither has evolution. Because if it was, we wouldn't doubt it. Lol @ that attempt.
     
  7. Pigglez

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    Lol at the fact that I never said evolution was proven yet.
     
  8. aMoeba

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    That is what your post implied. This IS a creation vs evolution debate, is it not?
     
  9. Pigglez

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    Don't go on implications. Go on the fact that I never said that.

    What I did say is how awesome it is he has all of this evidence that disproves evolution.
     
  10. P3P5I

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    Evolution has more Hard evidence to support it. See, evidence. Funny thing, ain't it? And none of us said evolution was proven yet, we just think it's more proven than creationism.
     
  11. aMoeba

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    Your words imply it... either to learn to form a sentence differently or make your sentence more clear. Its quite apparent that in a "this vs that" debate if you say there's no proof to "that" it certainly implies proof to "this".

    As could I give you the same argument.
    Ten Reasons Evolution is Wrong
     
  12. P3P5I

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    I read part of this essay. It struck me as odd though, when the author said creationists believe in natural selection. That is one of the parts of evolution. Say, you are a spider. Along with you, 2 other spiders are competing for the same territory you are. The only difference between you and your competitors is: One spider is very large, one spider is too small, and you (the spider) is an average size. Now, onr of the spider's predators are birds. The large spider does not get attacked by birds, as it is too large, but it cannot catch prey effectively for it is too big to hide anywhere, so it dies off. The tiny spider can hide successfuly to catch its prey, but it gets attacked by birds and made extinct. Now, you are an average spider. You can fend for yourself against bird attacks and can hide and catch your prey, so you have the opportunity to reproduce and pass the gene for your size down to your offspring. That is one type of natural selection. Or evolution. Adaptations to suit your environment.
     
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    That's micro evolution, the one we do believe in. We DON'T believe in monkeys gradually changing into humans, but we do believe that animals will adapt to better suit their surroundings.
     
  14. EonsAgo

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    That's all microevolution. The dictionary says that:

    Macroevolution:
    (noun) Biology
    Major evolutionary change. The term applies mainly to the evolution of whole taxonomic groups over long periods of time.

    "Over long periods of time." Meaning lots of small "evolutions"... or microevolutions. I guess you do believe in evolution then, huh.
     
  15. P3P5I

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    Stop. humans did not, did not evolve from monkeys. We share a common ancestor. It's like saying,"Hey, you and your cousin look alike, so you are your cousin's mom/dad." Humans did not evolve from monkeys. Humans are more closely related to modern apes than to monkeys, but we didn't evolve from apes, either. Humans share a common ancestor with modern African apes, like gorillas and chimpanzees. Scientists believe this common ancestor existed 5 to 8 million years ago. Shortly thereafter, the species diverged into two separate lineages. One of these lineages ultimately evolved into gorillas and chimps, and the other evolved into early human ancestors called hominids. What don't you get about this?
     
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    A long, misspelled series of rants which at the end details how Christianity is Superior to Atheism. Religion doesn't even have to enter into the creationism/evolution debate.
     
  17. aMoeba

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    Like I said. We believe that birds may grow larger beaks to pick up their fish, not that they grow into another animal over 70,000,000 years...

    And what animal is this common ancestor? A human or a gorilla? Or a mixture?
     
  18. EonsAgo

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    Look, it's not Cat -> Dog evolution.
    It's the same animal, just a better one, or like a "cousin". It's not like fish are evolving directly into birds or something. That's crazy talk.
     
  19. P3P5I

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    We don't know yet. We have fossil records of humans and primeapes showing similar characteristics between the two. Did you see the skeletal pictures a page or two before? Science isn't going to give a be-all-end-all excuse for the theory of life. Science is full of mistakes and errors, and it will never be fully accurate. But just because we don't have the necessary evidence of the human-ape ancestor, doesn't mean it exists. We just have overwhelming evidence pointing towards this ancestor.
     
  20. aMoeba

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    So how exactly do we all come from an amoeba?
     
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