Should the Focal Point be in the Center?

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  1. Hari

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    My point exactly.
     
  2. RomanSparky

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    I honestly don't know why so many people are dead set against it. If you don't break rules, you will never be an innovator. You need to break out of order to start something new. While this may not actually be a new idea technically, people are so dead against it that if you do it well, then it will be like a new idea, something no one has actually done before.
     
  3. Hari

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    Its not a set in stone rule. Its just something you do so your sigs dont suck.
     
  4. Shatakai

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    My point is that so many people are set on the idea that a signature that has it's focal point placed in the center absolutely cannot look good, so few will actually try, seeing as how they don't think it will turn out good anyway.

    I would absolutely love to be proved wrong.
     
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    It'll be a challenge I guess, trying to make a centered focal point sig into amazingness. I really want to see what people make. It can't be that bad, can it?
     
  6. haruki jitsunin

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    No, the focal point should not be in the center of the image. Why? Because it's poor design technique. It stops the viewers eyes from going anywhere but the center and is an easy way to ruin a good image.
     
  7. Hari

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    aha. i have another agreeing person.

    Thats exactly what i said. It ruins the rest of the image.
     
  8. RomanSparky

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    You say that its not a set-in-stone rule, and so do so many other people. But you and everyone else are pretty much dead against it, and treat it like a set rule even though it isn't. What I'm saying is, it is possible to make an awesome sig using the center as the focal point, and for it to not suck. In fact, it may be magnificent. All it depends upon is the execution. But too many people have it set in their minds that the focal point being the center is a bad thing, that no one really will try it.
     
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    You guys are like afraid of a centered focal point like it's some virus or a monster. I understand how it may take away from the rest of the sig, but what if the meaning of the sig is that centerpiece.
     
  10. Shatakai

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    None of you can say that it "ruins" a sig, or that it's a poor design technique, because that is all based on opinion. Take this piece of art as an example:

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    This is a symmetrical image and it's focal point lies in the center. Think it's ugly? You might, but there are plenty of people who would think otherwise. You cannot say that something can make a signature, image, or piece of art ugly, because none of it is fact. All based on what an individual feels.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
     
  11. haruki jitsunin

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    For every sig you show me that has a center piece that needs to be in the center, I can show you at least 3 versions of that sig that look better. Seriously, there are better ways to do things than putting them in the center.
     
  12. Convulse

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    you really have no idea what youre talking about, if you were to move your render to a side, you'd leave a big neg space which would look ridiculous. centre-focal sigs arent always bad, as long as you have the flair to take advantage of it, all the power to you.

    do not stick to conventions and trends, they will get you nowhere.
     
  13. RomanSparky

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    exactly. break this single minded thinking and prove to yourselves and everyone else that it CAN be done. lol. pessimism is the enemy of progression, dontcha know.
     
  14. haruki jitsunin

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    Negative space is not a bad thing. You know what is a bad thing? A stagnant, boring layout.
     
  15. Nightfire

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    No one has really explained clearly why having a centered focal point sig would be bad.
    We're just going back and forth. Show some sigs that suck major only because they are centered from other websites or some you've made. I would like to see some.
     
  16. Convulse

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    a big awkward neg space is usually a bad thing, friend -- and it wont help your exciting "layout" none.
     
  17. RomanSparky

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    Its because I don't think that they can prove a good enough argument to prove it is a bad thing. They're just too stubborn to try to change their thinking to prove once and for all that the focal point being in the center is a bad thing or not. They say it is a bad thing, but I'm not seeing any proof. I don't want something crapped together either, i want an honest attempt at it. Then, I will shut up and believe.
     
  18. haruki jitsunin

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    I did, explicitly... It's boring. It keeps the viewers eyes stuck in the middle of the image. Generally speaking, if the designer is doing a good job, the design will lead the viewer's eyes across the image, not keep them in the middle.
     
  19. Convulse

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    now youre talking about flow, not focal point. this is a different matter altogether, focal point is what draws you in first and foremost, focal point does not mean "THIS IS ONLY WHERE YOU MAY LOOK."
     
  20. haruki jitsunin

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    I don't even think you know what you're talking about. Negative space isn't bad. As a designer, using this negative space can enhance your design. It's called activating the negative space. Plus, having large negative space in with a smaller positive space can add a nice contrast. You know contrast does for an image, right? It makes it more interesting...
     
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