MLG Shadows 4v4 2-Base

No MLG map is supposed to contain an aesthetic Space ship in it. And the construction is really poor for this map also. By the pictures, this map seems like its going to have horrible gameplay, and its just an overall poor map.

2.5/5

 

Really.
I bet you just looked at the first picture and saw that it looks somewhat ugly and then just scrolled all the way down here to reply, didn't you?

And to G043R, I DO think that the first picture you have up is not a very enticing image and might cause people to just skip over your map. Maybe move this one first? http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s225/Kakashi91288/TopPelican.jpg

 

I actually looked at all of them. I understand that this is your first MLG Map G043R, but the simpler an MLG Map is, the better.

 

That is not at all true. Do you think amplified is simple. Do you think that lockdown is simple?

It does loook pretty good. Maybe messy in some spots, like by the doors near the crane, there are two boxes with a bridge on it and the boxes look crooked and you should merge them into the wall.

I like that you tried to incorporate an aesthetic piece into an MLG map, which makes me want to try it out. Be back later.

 

All I'm trying to say is that this map isn't great, but its not bad. Its good for a first, better then mine at least, although it does need some improvements.

And what I mean by simple is the layout for all MLG Maps, not the actual Geo-merging or any part of construction.

 

I would love to, although I cannot because my Xbox is being sent back to me right now from the repair center. As soon as I get it back, I will try to contact you.

 

that simple, basic layout is exactly what is wrong with 90% of MLG maps forged today. The mold NEEDS to be broken, because all there are are just re-makes of Onslaught and Amped. Its sad really. You are also incorrect that MLG maps cannot have aesthetics. First and foremost its not completely aesthetic, and is a fully functioning part or the map as well as a focal point and strategic position. Also, there are more MLG maps than are built on Foundry. What you are saying is that MLG Guardian shouldn't have looming trees all over the place, MLG The Pit shouldn't have a voice playing in the background over the speakers. I tihnk you should perhaps lay off the guy who is actually trying to make his map come to life. A quality far too uncommon within Forge.

And as for your rating of the map, as well as your comments on gameplay, save them for when you actually have some experience with the map, because a rating like that made not even 2 minutes after it has been posted is a disgrace, and a horrible attribute in many FH'ers that needs to stop. There's no basis for it what-so-ever. If you wish to comment on what you see in the pics, so be it. But you should most definitely NEVER make uneducated assumptions regarding gameplay, and you should NEVER rate a map withought, at the bare minimum, giving it a forge through (I emphasize bare minimum). Please keep that in mind when you post at ForgeHub in the future.

Back on topic.

I have had the pleasure to play this map a few times already during testing, and while it is a very unconventional MLG map, it plays very well for what it is. G04 did a great job of using the whole of Foundry in the best way since Triumph. Great use of elevation and ground cover make this an awesome KotH map as well as an exciting CTF map.

G04, did you end up switching around the Flag score points like you were thinking of doing?

In any case, this map is a ton of fun.

 

Here is my forge through review.

Some pros:
I like how there is a lot of verticalness added to this map. It seems it will play nicely. Not to many MLG maps add to their map vertically.

I like the pelican a lot. It is not too flashy but at the same time, you made it look nice.

I like how you actually used the drop spawn. A lot of MLG maps forget to use it.

Now cons:

There is a bridge that acts as the ceiling to the pelican. If you start at the cockpit (note you are on top of the pelican) and walk forward, you will walk towards that wall that goes down the middle of foundry and there is a fence wall right there. Well, there is a bump inbetween that fence wall and the bridge, as the bridge ends well before the wall.

There are scattered bumps that could send people flying off of the structures, can't really explain where though. They are mostly up really high though if that helps.

If a team gets stuck in their base, It seems it will be difficult to get out, but I can't really say much on that as that is gameplay.

Due to the height of the map, I think the rockts will be overkill.

I'll come back later with a gameplay review whenever I can get 7 people.

 

remember that the back hallway is open

 

You are completely right, and I know I was being a jerk, I apologize. Although I still believe that something like a ship shouldn't be standing in the middle of an MLG Map. I know I cannot judge the gameplay without actually playing a game on the map. Sadly I do not have my Xbox in my possetion, thus meaning I tried to give the map's gameplay be best impression, and giving it a rating from there on.

 

Oh crap COMPLETELY forgot that. THen ignore that part that I said.

 

Well I'm happy to finally see a great piece of aesthetics incorporated into an MLG. Downloads all around! I've seen this pelican before (along with a matching phantom in the same map) and I always thought that it would do wonders if it were added to a map. Looks like I was right. I won't rate until I play this map but I can already say that you did a good job.

 

First and foremost I would like to say that this has the makings of a great map. I think the pelican and hangar are original ideas, and add to the aesthetics. However, I agree with IB u IN N ii on his points.

MLG maps are better when they are cleaner, and have a much more simple design. All so called aesthetics in MLG maps, such as the overshield and camo merged into boxes on Onslaught for example, actually serve a purpose. They define specific callouts and make it easier to describe a specific location on the map. These aesthetics do not affect gameplay. Maps such as Guardian, with the trees being a major theme, already have such aesthetics built in. The placeable objects themselves leave the map quite bear. The aesthetics do not affect the gameplay whatsoever.

Now back to the map. What I am basically saying here is that the pelican directly affects gameplay and is an unnecesarry aesthetic addition to the "MLG" map. I like your originality, but MLG has a tradition of simple maps with great gameplay. I am not saying your map doesn't play well, I am just saying you shouldn't call it MLG. I think this is an excellent competitive map, but a poor MLG map.

 

I'm so sad I don't have my xbox now G04. You've got some amazing projects in the works and I've been wanting to see this finished for awhile now. You are truly a rare breed of forger... forgers are meant to break new ground and that is what I see you do with every idea you have.

Keep doing what you're doing man, 'cause it's awesome.

Oh, and about time somebody puts a shock into the MLG community. All the same tired level designs and gameplay... it's so stagnant and lifeless...