Debate is God the Devil?

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  1. Lance001

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    I turn off all microphone whatnot when playing. If I play a game that requires a lot of teamwork, I only play with good friends of mine who know my convictions and standards. =)

    And I'm checking into that site right now. Thank YOU for responding in the correct manner. I respect that a lot.
     
  2. EonsAgo

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    Hold up, time is a limiting factor. Time tells us how much longer we have to live, how long to microwave our pasta, etc. Time includes a past, present, and future. God has none of those three, except a present if you want to be technical I guess. It is true that he created time and could choose to be limited.
    But while he could make an exception for himself and not be limited by time, why do that if he is already unlimited? Because time is "created" to limit our existence on Earth. He is eternal, and as you and I stated before, our souls are eternal.

    Sorry if I'm being redundant, I'm just not sure how to say it all.
     
  3. idiotninja

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    So are you saying that God can experience time, but does not have to?
     
  4. Draw the Line

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    I was referring more to God's standards in the 10 Commandments. "Thou Shall not Kill".... yet you play a game which glorifies the killing of others.

    But cursing is a problem that you find everywhere, it must be challenging to avoid it.
     
  5. Nitrous

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    You also need to remember, those who have even wanted to kill someone have murdered in their heart.

    That would be the insult i was speaking of.
     
  6. Lance001

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    "Thou Shall Not Kill" is indeed one of the Ten Commandments. And I do try to follow those commandments, DtL. But I believe them to be literal; in other words, "killing" a character in a video game who has no soul but is merely pasted together pixels is not the same as slaughtering someone on earth, thereby removing their soul's presence from this world. Secondly, I don't believe Halo glorifies killing others. I believe it glorifies saving others. In the campaign, of course, Master Chief's purpose is the salvation of humanity. As for "wanting to kill someone being murder," you're misquoting Jesus. Jesus said that anger against someone is the same as murder. When I play Halo, it is for enjoyment and to grow closer to my friends, for jovial competition. If I ever start to become angry at all, I simply quit.

    Asking you to use some logic is not an insult. You had just clearly ignored my own logical argument and then attempted to twist my words into saying something that wasn't there. That was a sincere request, not a mocking comment. And compared to you calling me "g*d d*** dumb...
     
  7. EonsAgo

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    Hey Lance, did you see my post above? Response? =)
    (We were discussing how God does/doesn't experience time.)
     
  8. Nitrous

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    I only called you dumb because you misrepresented my stance to make me look like I was insulting you and then preceded to tell me I'm emotional. That's horse crap.
     
  9. idiotninja

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    Yeah, I never got an answer.
     
  10. Lance001

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    Crap, totally missed it, mate. Really sorry about that.

    The only reason I believe God ever limits Himself is to further reveal Himself to His creation, humanity, that we might come to know Him better. It's like Jesus dying on the cross, in a way: Jesus didn't have to limit Himself to a human body, but He did so in order that mankind might be able to know God on a personal level, rather than mankind having some knowledge of God the Father, Who is spirit. Additionally, Jesus showed through His human life that sin could be resisted by following after His Father.

    Hope that clears some stuff up.

    ARGH, I FAIL. Sorry, idiotninja. Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. God can choose to do anything, as that's what goes along with His omnipotence. So, yes, He can choose to experience time. In Jesus' life, He did just that. Again, forgive me for totally missing that post....there's quite a bit of action going on here.

    Nitrous, why you called me dumb doesn't justify the fact that you did. =/
     
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  11. Nitrous

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    And I admit that but don't act as if it was unprovoked and you are the innocent bystander of some unknown rage.
     
  12. EonsAgo

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    Don't worry about missing my post (there's a sea of them).
    I see now what you mean about God limiting himself.

    Well, good debating. I'll be going to bed now, so i'll see you all later. =D
     
  13. Lance001

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    I wasn't trying to make you out to be the antagonist, Nitrous. Please forgive me if I've done just that. I'm willing to overlook everything, as well; I for one know how easy it is to get carried away.

    Motion to get back on subject for all of us? =)

    Thanks for debatin', Eons, see you 'round. I'm probably 'bout to head off myself.
     
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  14. l Himitsu l

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    the devil isn't God...God whatever he does he does it becasue its good...all the evil that happens isn't bad its good...God made it so...so everything God does has to be good...because he is the manifestation of all that is good...so the devil is actually a little voice in all of us that urges us to be good...its kind of like one of those dating sim games...all of the answers to the questions lead to a different little ending...but you have the choice...the effect of those chocies given to you are of God's
     

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