Debate Out-of-Map Hiding: Cheap or not? Are HLG's honourable players?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Aranore, Nov 9, 2008.

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Simple one: is out-of-map a cheap tactic? (ignore other if statements. K.I.S.S)

  1. Yes. It is cheap

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  2. No. It is not cheap

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  1. Aranore

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    [Note: K.I.S.S. = Keep It Simple Silly)

    As it says, is hiding (that's out of map hiding, not using map cover) a cheap tactic? Does it take skill? Is it Ethically okay in Halo? It is just a game, by doesn't what we do in every action show light to our true character (even just games?) Should it be avoided in ranked matches or used in all?

    I've been part of a "is hiding cheating" debate for close to a month now I think. here's a link to it to anyone interested so we've come to the conclusion that is it not cheating. Any and all opinions for the questions above.

    This is a debate so no arguing who's right or wrong,as that would never end. Just your opinions on the matter and tactic.
     
  2. SLY JD

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    Of course it's cheap. It's not cheating but it's not good sportsmanship.
     
  3. CLIFF X13

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    It is very cheap, but since Bungie made Halo such a gltiched up game, that's what everyone has to expect. More and more hiding spots are being found while the old ones are being blocked, learn most of the hiding spots so people can't use them against you. Go on Youtube and look up Halo 3 HLG, you'll find lots of videos. Most of the spots are pretty obvious, Like the one on Guardian that's blocked off. It is so easy to spot, yet thousands of players don't even know about that. I personally don't hide because I don't see it as fun. In some occasions, like in social slayer and it's 49- 25 for my team. I occasionally hide with my friends. Thats when it's fun.

    So my thought is that out-of-map hiding is really cheap, but since it's Bungie's fault, it isn't cheating. Most of the time, people hide to rank up, and this just proves that they are really bad.
     
  4. Goatnuts

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    I like how you complain about how much of a glitched up game halo 3 is but yet im sure you still play it every night and have fun, but when bungie does something wrong thats not even bad at all, you *****.

    So does it make it not cheap when you are up 25 points?

    I really dont agree with you that people hide to rank up. It is alot slower than if you actually play the game and beat the other team. Remember there is a little thing called the kill lead that you have to get before you hide. That takes skill, the better team should take the kill lead.

    Anyone disagree?
     
  5. Speed-e-cake

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    Because getting out of the map is not intended to be in a multiplayer map, I would have to say no, it's not a legitimate strategy. It's true that the time you take to actually get to the spot and then execute the glitch does take a long time in some instances and you can be killed as you're doing so, it's still an unfair tactic because not every one knows of these spots and/or do not want to get out to fight with honor and sportsmanship. Hiding in Halo 3 without glitching is fine, seeing how if you hide, you can be found just as easy if you know the map. But my closing point, hiding is fine, just keep it in the maps boundaries.
     
  6. wiggums

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    I always consider it a strategy, They aren't hacking, or glitching all the time, so how can it be cheap? getting a rocket launcher and shooting a ghost isn't cheep, because they were put in the map. well all those hiding spots were put in the map, so why not?
     
  7. Tristan28

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    Exactly what I am trying to say. If bungie gives it to you, use it to your advantage.
     
  8. Whisper

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    If it's available, you can do it. That's what I always say.
     
  9. Dr. Chombie

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    Excellent way of debating this problem. You have one of the greatest points put and I don't think anyone can make a better debate than this.

    Getting out of the map was not intended, they were accidents made by Bungie so to get out of the map and use an unfair advantage against other players is cheap and not neccessary. It may not be hacking but it might as well be because it is still considered cheating because you are using advantages that are not intended to be inserted into the game.

    Sure it may be available but it wasn't intended to be available. Take Rat's Nest for instance. You can get onto the pipes around the whole level and that gives the player somewhat of an advantage. It's available to the players but not out of the map thereofre not cheating. It would be a legitiment strategy but if I was in let's see, Guardian I got up into the tiny secret room right beside the blue room (I'm not saying any more), that's cheating because there are holes in the barriers that Bungie wasn't able to fill in therefore it's getting out of the map and cheating.
     
  10. Tristan28

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    Why, Bungie messed up and people take advantage of it. This is cheap but not cheating.
     
  11. Whisper

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    For all you know, the designer of the map (the single person, not the entity that we know as Bungie) did it on purpose.
     
  12. Dr. Chombie

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    Trust me they didn't. They tried their best to create the best barriers to keep people from exceeding the map's barrier's. And I know what you're thinking, That there is an easter egg outside of Sandtrap. I believe they put that there for people who got out of the map because as hard as they tried to perfect the barriers, they still believed that players were going to find away out.
     
  13. Tristan28

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    I agree with Whisper. I think they did it on purpose because bungie always does stuff like that.
     
  14. Whisper

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    1) Why the hell should I trust you?
    2) How do you know they tried their best? Are you a psychic or some ****?
     
  15. Y35 <3

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    How about we flip the question a little bit.

    Why is hiding considered "cheap"?
    When camping with a shotgun around a corner is fiar?
     
  16. Dr. Chombie

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    1. I never said that you should trust me. Just calm your hormones and believe the false **** you want to believe.

    2. Because if they didn't try their best then they'd be stupid. Why only try half ass when you know you can do better?
    No I am not psychic but I am smart and I know what I'm talking about but apparently you don't.

    No Bungie doesn't always do stuff like that. You just said the supidest most pointless thing in the world there.
     
  17. Tristan28

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    Are you kidding me. Bungie plays those little games all the time. And you told him to trust you at the beginning of your post.
     
  18. Dr. Chombie

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    It's a figure of speech. Get with the program. And Bungie does not do retarded things like purposely make holes in barriers so people can get out. And Bungie doesn't play these stupid little games with us like you stated. They're smart about what they do.
     
  19. Tristan28

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    I didn't say they weren't smart. But like the superintendent, that was a little game. And you don't think they have the manpower to close up those barriers?
     
  20. Dr. Chombie

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    Why don't you make a game and we'll see how easy it can be.
     

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