I misstated what i was trying to say,What i meant was we don't need to evolve drastically,Like growing a third leg...
I think I have been quoted in this thread over 10 times lol Ok yes im christian and I believe in God and how he created the earth in 6 days ( 7 =rest) I just cant understand evolution because if we evolved from organisms very small ones, where did these come from, did they appear or what?
blah blah always needing to side with god cause you can't accept logic. what about that adam and eve bullshit? huh? I mean do you believe that? How come nowadays, with science and technology we can tell that siblings... well .. ****ing, can have a serious outcome (dipshit babies) cause they're genes are so alike. please explain that if, over a period of time the whole population came to be, and there aren't as many birth defects as there should be or just a giant society of beings who can't accomplish everyday tasks?
I am not the religious type of person but I am a man who believes in God as well as other things, however I cannot go to believe that we were created by God or some sort of Religious leader. I will lean more towards the theory of evolution seeing as I've been taught more towards that line of education in school as we have started as fish and moved up to monkeys and cavemen etc.... However I do believe that it all had to start somewhere thus being my shortened belief that there was a hint of creation stirred up although I am more along the evolution side, but I can't prove enough because I have been taught so much about each side it really is hard. Not everyone teaches the same side. I learn by some teachers evolution and by others creation so from me, I don't know what to believe.
Ok to be honest I got lazy and stopped reading after page 5.... ANYWAYS... Creation 1. In the beginning God created the heavn and the earth. 2 the earth was without form, and void; Darkness was on the face of the deep. and the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.... Evolution. Not all asteroid impacts have been bad for life on Earth, according to a controversial new theory. Giant impacts between 3.6 and 4 billion years ago may have thawed the Earth's frozen oceans, creating the right conditions for the chemistry of life. Creation 3. Then god said, "Let there be light" and there was light Evolution. The new impact idea resolves a puzzle posed by conflicting evidence about conditions on the early Earth. According to standard astronomical models, the Sun was 20 to 30 per cent fainter 4 billion years ago than it is today. Creation 6. Then God said," Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let is divide the waters from the water."... 8 and God called the firmament Heaven. Evolution. if gas mixtures containing nitrogen and methane were excited by electrical discharges, they can generate a tremendous variety of organic compounds. Those compounds could have served as building blocks for the first living cells. But such a process works only in a reducing atmosphere. The way I see it, the thought of creation was brought up as a way of understanding how life was brought to this earth. They just thought of something that would bring meaning to this bizarre world. As of now we have the science and knowledge and technology to study things more clearly which brings us evolution, so both creation and evolution are both real, except creation is not what most people would think. The bible was probably not meant to be taken literally, but give meaning to things they didn't understand and give guidelines that every human should follow to be good to one another. Bibliology; The Bible, http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14119152.500-science-a-smashing-start-for-life-on-earth-.html, My own thoughts and opinions.
I totally Disagree. Never are your actions not controlled by your mind. Never are your Mind Not effected by your body... and the spirit of you controlling the tendencies you perform. Lets put into a comparison shall we? When I play halo some times my actions aren't guided by my thoughts.. some times they move on there own... which contradicts my mind picking all the actions my body(or figure ) will preform in game. Now I'm suggesting instinct is the spirit more than the mind.... though it is an out of body action IT IS STILL your body moving the controller.... and IT IS you moving.... Yes because the game is playing forward... are you thinking ..yes..but not on a guided level..I would suggest more that your spirit is playing... As a side note... compare the holy trinity to the mix... how can heaven have all 3 ..the body the mind and the holy spirit ...if they are just Spirits... also again..how can the body ..know the will of good..and also pass threw walls...All I am suggesting is that they are logically connected. Alright... if we aren't evolving helpfully we are devolving... read up on the theory..could help you out a bit... I even agree with the theory of evolution...but Carbon dating... I'm still waiting for some one to take the time to explain how it works.... its quite useless to agree a method works and not know how it works...
So body, mind and soul are going to heaven? You haven't brought up anything for me to refute! If I said, plate tectonics is fake, wouldn't you expect me to substantiate that claim? The same goes for you. Substantiate your claims. You agree with evolution? I thought you were a creationist.
Well It is a new body and a new mind...I'll find verses in Revelations..but Yes quite literally...Think of your spirit as a Flash drive...your body as the hard drive and the mind as a processor... when you die you get upgrades...but the files are keep safe..and reused. NO Go back to my post... It was a while back..but I'm not taking it easy on you... it would not be fair...lol Simply... Carbon 14 ..levels out ..to where the halves are not possible to understand after 5000 years. SO how can carbon dating back up anything past 5000 years?.... Now I argue that I can believe in god and the Theory of Evolution... I said this earlier...Things evolve that is a fact ..but the tread doesn't have to fully be to the way we see it now.
A new body and mind. Not the one I hold dear and near. Anything in the range of millions of billions is usually Strontium-strontium dating and other radioactive dating methods. However, carbon dating has been proved to be accurate up to 60,000 years. 5730±40 years was determined to be the C14 half-life, which is known as the Cambridge half-life. This is, however, not relevant for radiocarbon dating. If calibration is applied, the half-life cancels out, as long as the same value is used throughout the calculations. Laboratories continue to use the Libby figure to avoid inconsistencies with previous publications.
Science is the answer for everything in the universe pretty much your tv evolved into your computer its like magic monkey squirrel had nice quote unquote stuff and they made you happy birthday the mind is a terrible thing to waste so eat your corn and have fun with life believing is bad for you and you should do what ever you want this is a whole bunch of gibrish and i have no idea what ive written Scientology Spoiler HIstory sucks so the bible sucks amen
Limit your use of "****" and maybe we could understand you I want someone to explain to me how these organisms we evolved from came from. Did they just appear?
also the bible has predicted many things from all the conquering nations (alexander the great, romans, etc.) also in the bible it says that the country of the eagle (U.S.A) will fight and conquer the descendents of Ishmeal (not sure if spelled correctly(which are islamic people)) its talking about the war in Iraq and Afhganistan. So how bout that Also how does the big bang theory get proven. They have to build a huge mechine thats takes careful calculations and shoot particles at eachother and try to prove that is how the big bang theory. So before us there was just two random particle that hit into eachother to cause the big bang and to recreate that we have to build and super complicated atom seperater and take many tries to shoot particles at eachother til they make contact.
1. Give me the bible verses, now. 2. Not trying to be rude or anything but do you even know what the big bang is?
yes i had to go a gay report on it in science last year and hold on i'll have to go find them which might take a while
Just for the sake of 5 second search... How stuff works clearly says Carbon 14 only works for 5000 years. HowStuffWorks "Carbon Dating" Now the interesting thing is ...it takes 5000 years for it to totally break down..or does it break down over 60000 years because I fully have to disagree with both what we are taught on how carbon dating works..and how ITs applied in the formula...as well proof of any thing. I mean you can quote how it works..but your not explaining how it works at all. And I very much refute thee ... just because it works doens't prove its correct.
heres the verses about alexander the great. Daniel 2:31-43 31 "You looked, O king, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. 32 The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, 33 its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. 34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were broken to pieces at the same time and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth. 36 "This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. 37 You, O king, are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; 38 in your hands he has placed mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds of the air. Wherever they live, he has made you ruler over them all. You are that head of gold. 39 "After you, another kingdom will rise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. 40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. 41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. 42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. 43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay. And if you read verse 39 it starts with the babylonian empire (gold) then it talks about the Persian Empire (Silver) and then it talks about Alexanders Empire (bronze) it says that it shall conquer the entire world and he did conquer the entire known world. Then in verse 40 it talks about the Roman empire which did crush and smash everything else and it was crushed like everyone else EDIT: i havent found the other verses yet i just knew these ones right then and there
How did you not understand that? @Sage - I want one that refers to a modern day country, not ancient empires. That just proves they had knowledge of their existence. I want the america reference.
I argue the fact of how that formula was formed not in that it works... I mean its not explaining the method at all in which its derived. I don't know but in the math community nothing is agreed until the math work in understood.
NO... It doesn't' mean anything... The formula is a date creator if the half life are 1000 years or even completely different' that can totally change how things are dated..meaning I am not trust in a formula at its word... take a look at how the formula works... its kinda a face value and doesn't leaven an idea of proof. Like many formula's you can look at it and understand how it works..but Pi formula's you have to go back and understand how it works as well...but Pi is a totally differen't argument... of why I don't like it.... NOW if you can go back 5000 and bring back a topic it would be nice. SIde note... if it has 10% remaining it should have gone threw 3 half lifes right... because its close to 2000 ...or is that 4 half lifes...W/e the answer doesn't make sence to me.... And I'm very upset you have ignored my other topics in this debate... So i'm bringing it back up. Spirits are what make you you in my Oppion. I mean what makes you differen't from any other humans? Or a computer that is programed thought processes and you?