Toddler 'starved to death by religious cult because he wouldn't say amen'

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  1. Reynbow

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    Toddler 'starved to death by religious cult because he wouldn't say amen'
    By Daily Mail Reporter
    Last updated at 5:59 PM on 12th August 2008



    A toddler whose remains were found inside a suitcase was starved to death by religious cult members - including his mother - because he refused to say 'amen' after meals, police said today.

    Ria Ramkissoon and three other members of the group have been charged with the first-degree murder of her son Javon Thompson, whose body was found in April.

    U.S. police and the family of Ramkissoon say that the group, based in Baltimore and called 1 Mind Ministries, is a cult.
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    Members of the religious group, based in Baltimore, above, are alleged to have dumped the child's body in a suitcase

    Javon's food was stopped in December 2006 - when he was about 15 months old - partly because he refused to say 'amen' after dinner, investigators were told by two children who had been taken away from the cult by Philadelphia police.

    Members viewed Javon as 'a demon', the children said.

    No medical care was sought for the toddler when he stopped breathing, and he died in his mother's arms, according to court records of police interviews with the two children and another informant.

    The anonymous informant told police that cult member Queen Antoinette then left the boy's body in a room for more than a week, claiming 'God was going to raise Javon from the dead,' court documents show.

    Afterwards, Antoinette burned the clothing and mattress and placed his body in a green suitcase, which she would periodically open and spray with disinfectant to mask the stench, police say.

    The group members allegedly left Baltimore early last year for Philadelphia, stowing the green suitcase and other luggage in a shed belonging to a man they had befriended.

    Officers found the suitcase, containing the remains of a small child, in April after a tip-off. They are now waiting for DNA tests to confirm the boy's identity.
    Ramkissoon, 21, was awaiting a bail review today while being held in custody in a psychiatric ward.

    The three other people charged over Javon's death - Antoinette, 40, also known as Toni Ellsberry or Toni Sloan; Marcus Cobbs, 21; and Trevia Williams, who turns 21 on Tuesday - are already in custody.

    They were arrested in May in New York on warrants charging them with failure to appear in court after a scuffle with police in a child custody dispute.

    A fifth alleged cult member, Steven Bynum, has also been charged with first-degree murder but remains at large, police say. He is believed to be in New York.

    Ramkissoon's family said she should not be held responsible for her son's death.

    'She had no control over that situation at all,' said her stepfather Craig Newton.

    Her mother Seeta Khadan-Newton says Ramkissoon was not behind the decision to stop feeding the boy.

    'My daughter was a victim, just like my grandson,' Ms Khadan-Newton said.
    'Somebody made that decision to not feed that child, and my daughter had to follow instructions.'

    According to court documents, Ramkissoon joined 1 Mind Ministries after Javon was born.

    Ms Khadan-Newton last saw her in April 2006; she later sued for custody of her grandson, writing in a letter to a judge that 'the cult leaders' were preventing her from contacting her daughter.
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  2. GoodWhaleSushi

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    UGH! Why?
    There's a reason I'm Atheist, and it's to do with this type of ****. I don't wanna turn out like these ****ers.
     
  3. Linubidix

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    Everyone knows this crap is going on, the right thing to do is to put them all in psyciatric ward.
    Seriously a 15 month old child being left for dead for not saying amen, that is sick.

    These people, although they never will, should be ashamed of themselves.
    Its anything but the lords work, its his dirty work; which by their rules, is the way of satan.

    Either way, these murderers deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
    If I had my way, they'd be persecuted.
     
  4. Roche178

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    That is ****ing sick!

    **** people.
     
  5. Boydeh ..

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    Why would you starve a 15 months old toddler just because he/she wouldnt say amen after a meal?!?
    That is way to serious!
    And reynbow you should so have your own side forum because most of the good stories in this section are from you!
     
  6. ToochieHxC

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    its kinda hard to believe a kid wouldn't say amen. if i were a little baby and starving id say whatever the **** they wanted me to say to get some food. but some kids are just that stubborn i guess. poor thing :[ crazy ass people.
     
  7. X5

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    He is only 15 months old... that is quite young, and he probably didn't know any better at that age. It was just typical defiance, if it wasn't "amen" it would have been something else. Who knows? Maybe he started crying amen at some time, but those sick ****s probably shook their head, like a mother does when her son says sorry to a sibling, and say "You don't mean it, no food for you."
    As for the mom not taking any role in this, **** her, she should have ran off when she had the chance, but it sure sounds like she much rather live with crazy extremist beliefs than anyone who cares for her in her life.
     
  8. redearth

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    My baby cousin would say either random things, or if you were nice to her, she might say half a word you tell her to. I got her to say supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. Syllable by syllable. But if your mean, they won't say anything. This is cruel. These people are out of their minds. And I don't believe the mother, why not run away with her child to the police.
     
  9. HITtheLIGHTZ

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    You just love these articles don't you?

    This is disgusting though.
     
  10. The God of Grunge

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    This is why I love to say,

    Religion...go **** yourself
     
  11. Arch3m

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    Beautiful. Excuse me while I go cry in a corner.
     
  12. QKT

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    lolwut? that is sooooo stupid they are all so deranged
     
  13. Bloumbas

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    Thats sick, 15 months the kid probably could even say amen. I never go to church, and when I grow older, I think I'll do the same, these people are messed, and belong in prison.
     
  14. Norlinsky

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    This is why religion is ridiculous. That's just sick and messed up. Wow...
     
  15. Thorax tehGREAT

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    wow if i had my way with them i they would wish for starvation
    espiacially the leader for partailly brainwashing those people into thinking its ok to do that
    also the mother for not doing anything because after a certain point maternal instict would kick in to
     
  16. EGP

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    Um, its not like all christians are like this
    NIce find reynbow
    Interesting story, kind of cruel lol
     
  17. Thorax tehGREAT

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    well who said they were christian
     
  18. Arch3m

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    No, this is why people are ridiculous. Your statement adds to the idea that humans are ridiculous, since you make a final judgment for all religion based off the actions of a single cult.
     
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    This has to be one of the most stupid posts I have heard on here

    The religion didn't make those people kill the boy, the fact that the people are ****ed up made them kill him

    **** yourself you ignorant asshole

    "Im an atheist because im better than the rest of the world and they're all just morons"
     
  20. EGP

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    Thats true
    Also, does this family have mental problems?
    Or are they taking theropy?
     

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