Lower the Guns

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by TrueDarkFusion, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. X5

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    For those of you thinking that this will result in online cheating, a simple fix would to simply allow it for online custom games. I don't imagine that would be to hard, right? Since it is only possible in local/custom anyway (unless, are you able to do it in Campaign? Cause I don't think so.) Also, it would be nice if they could redo the buttons, but that would be asking a bit much. Lowering guns in general would be great. I wish to start doing machinima for editing practice myself, and I don't have any local friends to do this with, so I would be alone, making it hard to pull off anything decent.
     
  2. Mallet

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    Thats what they said about it back in november

    Bungie.net : Inside Bungie : News

    I think its worth a try with this "lower the guns" stuff. A couple of thousand people not playing halo 3 for a day will obviously not force bungie to change anything. I do think however that the attention the campaign is building may catch their interest and perhaps reconsider. Hopefully the group will grow and many of the top halo sites will be having these discussions.

    There have been no bugs found by the community and now halo is fairly old there will be less controversy in them enabling and testing things. If a problem does arise they can disable it again. Clearly there isnt a chance of it causing a big problem like crashing your xbox otherwise it wouldn't be in the game at all. As long as it isnt too difficult to enable I think there some chance itll work.
     
  3. TrueDarkFusion

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    It's there when you system link so it's obviously in multiplayer. It's the same codec for offline multiplayer as online. Hell even campaign shares some of the same codec with multiplayer. An example would be when weaponless elites melee or throw grenades.

    Trust me the option is there but disabled.
     
  4. Dragoncoals

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    :(


    Anyway... I guess I'll be playing GTA or something then, if anything.
     
  5. X5

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    Or just play Bungies biggest online competitor right now, COD4
     
  6. DrawingMan

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    I, DrawingMan the lazy Machinma Maker, approve of this cause 1,000% and im wishing for this to actually take effect. I can already imagine the possibilities with my weapons down on Xbl.

    but in the meantime, since were not gonna be on Halo 3, why dont we all play some Free Roaming GTA4, Ill make another GTA Randomnesstage or something. Whos with me?
     
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  7. G043R

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    I have been thinking about what if you used brute shots during the moments for the close ups... like touch up cover ups...
     
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  8. Nemihara

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    Yes, it's disabled in Xbox Live. But a patch for Halo 3 to do so would have to modify the actual engine, as I described in the topic that Dragoncoals made.
    There are several things in the game of Halo 3 that can't be modified, such as anything inside of the engine. The engine handles physics, AI, spawning, player profiles, and a few other things I haven't mentioned.
    The engine is programmed to recognize that specific files are allowed to be patched over by files placed in the Xbox 360 HDD. This is why it's possible to have DLC Maps, Forge Maps, Screenshots, Custom Gametypes, and Videos.
    However, the engine is not able to patch itself. This is why things like new armor perms, colors, emblems, control setups, player models, physics (to a certain extent, it's not possible to modify. For an example, you can alter a map to make it zero gravity, but you can't make it so that basic physics of the game are ignored completely.), intro videos, and some things not mentioned in the above, are not possible to modify easliy with a simple patch.

    The easiest way I could think of would be to recompile the code of the engine to allow weapon lowering, and then distribute the new game as Halo 3.01 or something. But I think it should be obvious why not.
     
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  9. TrueDarkFusion

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    It is in the engine... As soon as you disconnect from XBL it is there. LAN games are exactly the same as XBL matches and use the same engine. Hell even the autoupdates apply to LAN.
     
  10. Nemihara

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    Said auto-updates update map files, not the engine.
     
  11. G043R

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    Your dancing around the point of Recon... I mean Its not much of a point but is like carbon dating for Evolution..or a missing link... they have the ability to do so... and it wouldn't need a mass redistribute to the game simply only people on line would need the patch...because ... They are online..

    and Yes Armor permintations are game engines because IN game they kick off line every so often to clean up lag in game... don't tell me they dont'...
     
  12. Grunt Sniper 53

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    Signed on. I may not be a machima maker but I do intend to give it a shot, on another note all you people that dont belive it will happen just sign up anyway missing one day of halo is worth the chance.
     
  13. Nemihara

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    You're the one that asked the question about Recon. I answered it.

    And elaborate on what you meant by 'Armor permutations are game engines'.
     
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    This was answered in the other thread. Recon armor is there just like all the other armor permutations are there, but it needs to be unlocked by Bungie, just as you would unlock Hayabusa for retrieving the skulls.

    Which is why Bungie can also take away your recon.
     
  15. TheShadyGnome

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    Or, instead of not posting anything, you could post something SUPPORTING it?

    That would do so much more good. When it comes to the forging-101s, we get thousands of views specifically from Forgehub it seems, and so it would definitely help spread the viral video (I'm not so concerned with promoting Flem here, you can reupload, embed, whatever... downloadable copy: http://www.teos39.com/downloads/Lower_The_Guns_Information.wmv

    Thanks TDF and forgehub.
     
  16. Dragoncoals

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    Why .wmv?

    TDF, I and others have macs... .mov FTW
     
  17. Nemihara

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    fail
    .avi ftw

    On topic: Oh, I definitely want the ability to lower guns. I like talking over MM and pissing my opponents off. But, with a myriad of reasons, it's not only very difficult to implement, but also potentially game-ruining.
     
  18. Dragoncoals

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    How so?
     
  19. Nemihara

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    BXR bring back any bad memories?
     
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    I will join this ccause for one reason: to show Bungie how little activeness their forums will be without forger and machinima makers, which are half the community.
     

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