I can understand marijuana being used as a pain reliever. That's just something I don't have the heart to debate. But I'm debating the complete legalization of it. No one disregarded your post, either. There was no need to bring it up again
A debate is supposed to be with points of argument. Not just from experiences. And that 40% he didn't even back up, and if its true he's supposed to source. But no one does that. that's why no takes a debate seriously. And that's why debate forum failed.
I feel your pain, Vinny. It's difficult to debate with people who have limited to no experience in what this life has to offer. All they have to go by is what's shoveled in their faces by television and their parents, who probably watch nothing but FOX News and regurgitate the bullshit they hear to these kids. Marijuana is no more a 'gateway drug' than soda and Twinkies are to a fat kid. If you have an addictive personality, you'll be addicted to anything that you would normally enjoy. That's how it works, people. To paraphrase the great Bill Hicks: "Criminalizing something that comes from Nature is basically saying that God made a mistake." Tell that **** to your parents and see what their response is.
The fact that the picture is twelve years old really kills this pic...LSD & X easily are way worse for you the marijuana... @ You, read the ****ing post below me. QFT. The debate forums actually haven't failed good sir, it's just not as easy for some to notice how well some people have posted. I think you neglect to realize the importance of the war, which, is none...That is a different debate though. Though, using that as your starting point is rather flawed, considering, it is not the only good ****ing reason...The others, such as removal of thousands from penitentiaries, thousands of families being broken over something so minuscule, and even hundreds of less people committing suicide due to depression (Extreme example, but hell, you ****ing used a few aswell). Oh look, the extreme examples I just talked about... These are so outrageous, I question your views as a human being. Cocaine may be grown from a plant, but the effects it has on the human are much more drastic. You've probably never seen anyone snort a line, let alone, someone about to die due to ****ing heroin. Try to man that one up. Another positive of the legalization of marijuana, is the removal of the gateway drug as a whole. Here me out here: When you remove the dealer; the guy who is there to make money, on a consistent, or even more efficient basis; then you are removing the guy who is said "gateway." If people start to go to their local grocery store for marijuana, they are not going to find themselves with a needle in the arm on their way out. Again...You're just being silly. No. You understand something. Laws may be here to protect everyone, but they are also here to protect the government. You've probably never heard of a government conspiracy before, well, if you have, then you'll probably think what I'm about to say is one. Which, fyi, it's not. LOL How convenient, before I went to list all the reasons why it is illegal...I went to get a source...and they have my list for me ^_^ Racism Fear Protection of Corporate Profits Yellow Journalism Ignorant, Incompetent, and/or Corrupt Legislators Personal Career Advancement and Greed I doubt you will, but please take the time to read at least: The Mexican Connection in there, you'd be shocked. <3 Agreed to the fullest extent. +rep for your original post though, sources = high-five in my book. (GOOD SOURCES, NOT THE CHEAP ****, lawl) The only thing wrong with your posts, is that you're using the example of marijuana as a good pain reliever, which, yes it is...but there are many more reasons to legalize it besides that. QFT lolololol <3 Bill Hicks. I think I'll end with a Bill Hicks video actually...Same one where he is quoted from Squiddy here. lawl... http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=jSH6ofHbeUw Now, he may be a comedian, but don't take that out of context, the man speaks a lot of truth.
Yes. Deffinately. "guys, guess what! Over the summer, my brother and I smoked marijuana. you guys, it was awesome. I'm gonna do it everyday for the rest of my life!" "Johnny go to the office" "Why" whitest kids you know. Whale tail Epic^^^ sorry Tex. Marijuana is up there as one of the healthiest things to smoke. Its actually not illegal in the Netherlands i think, and they're rate ofbadder drugs, such as haroin, have gone down. They also have less people in jail facing drug charges, since the U.S. has marijuana possession illegal, 75% of people in jail today, or something like that, are drug offenders. I saw a movie on it the other day.
Dude...Bloumbas, did you just completely ignore everything that went on in the last page? Please, provide some good points... (Don't get me wrong, the Whitest Kids you Know is a great show...)
Ok 2 things. 1. That graph shows GHB (Date rape drug), LSD, and Ecstasy are all around the same harm as Marijuana, but with less dependence, so does that mean we should legalize all of them too? Of course that's not the point, but if Marijuana becomes legalized, questions will arise about other "harmless" drugs that should be legalized. Although...Marijuana is much lower on the addictive and harmful scale compared to Tobacco and Alcohol, which is just another reason why either Marijuana should be legalized, or Tobacco and Alcohol outlawed. 2. Opioids have an even stronger painkiller effect without disrupting the healing process, so if we're looking for some pain relief, why not shoot some morphine? If someone is looking for relief from pain, why would they seek an illegal drug, when there is morphine available which is legal, and can give similar to stronger effects of pain relief than marijuana, depending on dosage. So if your main argument is why it's a better painkiller than OTC medicines, then that's not a good enough reason for it to become legalized. Plus, nobody I knows uses Ibuprofen regularly several times per day, which is what people do with Marijuana. Sorry for flip-flopping sides, this is a really complicated issue.
I think weed is a great thing. It's relaxing, makes everything funnier and the world in general more enjoyable. So that's a big "yes" from me. And just some food for thought for you guys- in order to overdose on marijuana, you would have to smoke 1,500 pounds of it in under 15 minutes. 1,500 pounds of grass is enough to keep you high from the moment you're born until the moment you die. If I were, for whatever reason, to try to OD on pot, I'd probably be too high after the first ounce to give a crap about whatever I was trying to accomplish in the first place. ALSO- I think that it's complete bullcrap that people are being arrested for smoking weed.How the heck can it be considered a crime to smoke a plant? How is that a bad thing? I'd love to hear a cop explain that one to me. And now, if you'll excuse me, I've got some herb to light.
Because someone decided the police should crack down on pot heads instead of coke heads. I know this might sound crazy but I think EVERY drug should be legal and heres why: Everyday people die in drug wars between gangs. These gangs aren't trading advil but the most illegal drugs. If everything was legal, they would go bankrupt because the pharmacy is selling them. I know there might be more addicts but like before it's a choice.
You bring up a good point, but there are some drugs that are legitimately bad for you. Coke is insanely addictive, and heroin ODs are pretty common. I would say that soft drugs should be legalized and hard drugs be kept illegal. Some stuff is just too dangerous to mess with. Sure, gang violence would go down, but the death rate would still go up.
But you see, LSD, Ecstasy and GHB haven't been known to provide the same uses as Marijuana. Marijuana is the only one that's been debated legal because of it's use and potentness. The thing is though, you get addicted much easier to morphine than you would to marijuana. Theres also a chance of overdose on Morphine, which we all know it deadly. And besides that, you'd need reasonable cause to be allowed to have morphine. It's not like you can go into the ER and ask for morphine and have it handed to you. (At least in the state of New York) That's a general statement with the marijuana. I smoke it, but definitely not several times a day. Not even several times a month even. There are those with addictive personalities. Blah blah blah. Refer to earlier posts. And don't worry about the whole flip flop. You're just staying on the neutral side of the debate.
Marijuana damages the brain = It will effect you in the future... Marijuana has damaging effect on brain - Health - Specials - smh.com.au
That article is misleading. The findings show that people who are already mentally unstable showed increased psychotic symptoms. The study in your article spoke nothing of average, mentally healthy patients and the effects of marijuana on them and isn't germane to marijuana's legalization.
Compare that to 2 things that are legal: Cigarettes - Damage the lung which leads to lung cancer which = death Alcoholic beverages - Damage the liver AND brain I still don't see why it isn't legal. Everyone here that thinks is illegal doesn't have a good reason probably because they never tried it fearing it will ruin your lives but it only does if you choose it to do so. I smoke but I still have a B-C average like before.
You just compared it to two legal things so that means it should be legal? If anything, cigarettes and alcohol should be illegal. Trust me, I would much rather have marijuana legal and alcohol or cigarettes outlawed. It's much safer than both of these. I just don't think we need another drug legalized. If you can get them to swap cigarettes with marijuana, I would be fine with that Instead of spamming...I will just say in your post: I agree.
Cigarettes - Why are they still legal? They kill millions of users a year including SECOND HAND SMOKE. How many people die from weed second hand? Weed shouldn't be smoked while driving though. Just like beer. You have to be responsible so why can't we with weed? By now some of you think I'm a pot head but I only smoke 1-2 times a week.
That's a different debate on its own. Marijuana needs to be legalized prior to even having the thought of that. Though, I will say, there should be a level of intoxication where it becomes illegal, similar to alcohol. As of right now, marijuana, until the point of "Oh mah gawd dood...I'm so ****ing high right now..." doesn't effect your judgment while driving too horribly, as a matter of fact, it is kinda relaxing to drive while stoned off your ass. Not too relaxing though, because even though you are under the influence of marijuana, you still understand the consequences of your actions, and know that your impaired judgment (if so intoxicated) can lead you to worse places then jail, such as the tomb. Then again, that varies from user to user. Which is why I say this isn't really the debate on our hands here.
Because Marijuana has a higher risk of psychological effects compared to the small buzz of cigarettes. And while cigarettes are addictive (nicotine) they don't impair your judgement like Marijuana. btw: Marijuana, not cigarettes. Make you're own thread.
Read the thread. I just PMS'ed over people who didn't post facts with sources. So you can die please.
Ok, first off, alcohol is a drug as well. It may not be an illegal drug, but its still a drug. Drawing some difference between drink and drugs just because one happens to be legal is senseless. You can get really drunk, and you can get really high, the effects are different, but its not like drink has an "upper limit" that drugs don't. And, bearing this in mind, what is this "good reason" that weed is illegal when drink isnt? I'm not saying they're directly comparable in all respects, but the principle is the same at least. Unless you can provide a scientific source proving your claims, think twice before making them.